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Changing ejectors
« on: December 25, 2008, 06:01:19 PM »
Ok.  Deep breath,  :'(  just looked at the 7-30 Waters barrel I had done.  The 223 ejector is unchanged.  Sticks up into the chamber and of course a cartridge won't fit.  :'( :-[ :(  So what is the best route to go here?  Try to modify the existing ejector, or order a 30-30 piece to replace it with?  I really would like to get this project done before next hunting season. :P  DP
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2008, 06:37:43 PM »
The .223 ejector and the 30-30 ejector are built differently.  The .223 ejector is made for a rimless case so it is spring loaded to be able to drop down to go over the rim.  The 30-30 is built like a shotgun ejector for a rimmed case.  Only proper way to do it is to go with the 30-30 type of ejector and remove the lifter button if you have one installed.  I would hope anyone who would modify a barrel for you would put in an ejector that would work.  Larry
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2008, 03:30:04 AM »
Quote from: trotterlg on December 25, 2008, 06:37:43 PM
  I would hope anyone who would modify a barrel for you would put in an ejector that would work.  Larry

Me too Larry!
How could any gunsmith consider the job complete if the customer can't use it?

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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2008, 05:26:42 AM »
 The ejector/extractor was removed for the re-chambering. Then reinstalled after the work was done, right? Maybe just slipped his/her mind when everything was put back together. Instead of a 30-30 part the original was installed. Drop them a line and I'm sure they will make it right.

 Other than that, I would say YES you are correct and need a 30-30 extractor/ejector.

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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2008, 05:29:24 AM »
Can this be ordered from H&R?  Or do I need to start looking for Gun Parts Corp or other parts warehouses?  DP :'(
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2008, 05:41:47 AM »
I would just order the right 30-30 ejector from Brownell's depending on whether the barrel is post '97 or older, then don't install the lift button as Larry said. Old ejectors had thick posts, you can see pics of the difference in the rimmed to rimless conversion in the FAQs link below.

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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2008, 05:59:10 AM »
dp, I have a30-30 ertractor(thick post) if you need it, let me know.    Doug
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2008, 06:04:20 AM »
Mine is the thin one.  Thanks for your reply Tim. Sorry, you answered my next PM in your post.  Thanks Doug for the offer.  I'll get my Brownells catalog out and start looking.  Just a bit of info., I was born and raised 17 miles south of Brownells in Iowa.
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2008, 06:22:39 AM »
I just compared a 223 ejector to both my 30-30s, the 223 isn't as wide as the 30-30, so either the notch in the barrel will have to be cut wider to use the 30-30 ejector as is, or the 30-30 ejector post will have to be cut narrower to fit the existing barrel notch.....or the 223 ejector post cut down to the height of the 30-30. Any way you look at it, there needs to be some modification, it won't be a drop in part.  :-\

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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2008, 06:28:09 AM »
So, if I modify the existing ejector, I take the lifter button out and it will work with the rimmed case?  I do want to retain the ejector and not convert to the extractor.  The 30-30's is alot wider than the one that was on the 223 barrel I sent.  The part under the rim on the 30-30 is the same, but it gets wider as it goes down the the slot on the barrel.  Keep in mind I'm good at tearing things apart, not putting them together. :-[  DP
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 06:30:37 AM »
Tim, I found it easier to simply cut the notch in the barrel with a Dremel cut off wheel and needle files.   Doug
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2008, 06:31:50 AM »
Either should work.  ;)

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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2008, 06:36:07 AM »
Doug, I'm not allowed to play with power tools around things that might still work.  DP
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2008, 06:39:51 AM »
Ok, looks like finding a smith here that can do the grinding for me :(.  Guess it's only money and the things that really matter, friends and family, are all around me.  So life is all good. ;)  DP
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2008, 07:34:32 AM »
I have a new 30-30 ejector sitting here, if you will send me a new thin one you get I will put this one in the milling machine and make it fit a .223 type cutout barrel for you.  Larry
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2008, 08:51:48 AM »
Larry's offer is too good to pass on DP.  ;)

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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2008, 09:19:52 AM »
It is already finished, I have a picture of it below, just send me your address and I will send it off.  Sort of a late Christmas present.  Larry



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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2008, 11:42:22 AM »
Larry, THANK YOU!  PM sent to you.  DP
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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2008, 12:20:27 PM »
Larry, you make Santa look foolish!!  What a nice thing to do.
Happy New Year to all of you.

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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2008, 12:30:31 PM »
Larry is definitely one of the good guys. ;)
He has posted enough great information and pictures to make a "Handi rifle how to"


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Re: Changing ejectors
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2008, 01:09:32 PM »
I'll back that up with a BIG 10-4. ;D  I went to the FAQs and printed how to take the ejector out, so should be ready to go soon.  DP
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