NY coyotes

[NYpsycho]

Does anyone else have a hard time coyote hunting in NY? I have tried calling them in the day time, and at night time for 2 years now and can't seem to even get one to come in. Seems kinda ridiculous that in 2 years of coyote hunting that i haven't even seen or heard one, especially after all the posts i see of other people killing them in other states.

[Glanceblamm]

you have to look at the overall averages on the whole. If you go out with just a squaller, one fox or Coyote for every TEN calling sites is about right.
If you throw some change ups out there (say a howler with its associated languages and do some light coaxing with a squaller) I have done as well as three Coyotes in seven outings.
I do not think that camo is that important but I always use a face mask & gloves and will make sure to pick a site that will break up my outline. No movement or subtle movement is very important as they can pickup on this right now.

That Coyote might approach you at a dead run but it is just as likely (for the most part) to circle behind you to pick up your scent so when you pick out your calling site it is a plus to have shooting lanes at these right angles. It is also likely that the Coyote just does not want to be seen and will pull tricks like zig zaging from cover to cover while running with it's belly brushing the ground. What I like to do is to use my full pheriphal vision to look at everything in general and nothing in particular. If you try this you will be suprised at how quickly you can pick up on any movement out there and a lot of times it will just be a flash of fur that will tip you off.
An entire book could (and has) been written about this but the important part is to get out and call keeping the sucess rate averages in mind and to have patience.

[Ladobe]

Keep in mind that statewide the NY coyote population is estimated at about 20K.   Very low compared to many other states in the east, and just a drop in the bucket compared to many states out west.

No information was given if you have the knowledge and skills to be successful calling coyotes either.     

From what I've read in the news, if all else fails your best bet to see a coyote might be in downtown NYC.   

[NYpsycho]

I live in upstate NY. and i dont know if im verry good at calling, cuz i just started hunting them 2 years ago, and i havnt called 1 yet or seen 1 yet, so for all i know there aint any around here.

[Ladobe]

They're there, unless you are really trying to call in some off-beat places.   But there are many things you could be doing or not doing that assures you won't see any.   IOW, there's a heck of a lot more to successfully calling in coyotes than just blowing on a call.   Best bet for you would be to get an experienced caller in your area to show you the ropes, take you along.   Once you know the basics that work in your area, then its just lots of field time to gain experience to be successful.   It is worth the effort.

[coyotesbluff]

I too live in NY State and it's all about location..location..location. If {or what I do} is I hunt a 200 acre
horse farm and I keep in touch with the owner about when and what time they are seeing or hearing the yotes.What I do is take a ride around the perimiter on surrounding roads and {at evening }and I will
throw out some howls along the route.I will get responses if they are there..not always true though,
sometimes they just won't answer.But IF I get a response I will got to my location and set up and start
by howling,then maybe some rabbit in distress or some rodent distress,I tend to stay alot longer in a spot then others would be willing to.I don't like to give up to easy. Last year at a spot in an open field with a little brushy spot with a tree, I sat on a snowy nite and called 3 in and didn't even shoot a one, they had circled me and came very close to where I was but as they came closer to me they took the brush line route,and stayed in cover so I didn't get a shot off. The fresh snow really shuts down sound of incoming
yotes well. They followed my tracks all the way to about where I was.I sat on that spot for about 1hr 1/2
I'll go out about 7pm or so and stay out for as long as I'm willing to stay,I'll stay longer IF their is a full moon, clear night,snow on the ground, and not much wind. You could try using or setting up a bait pile,
of deer carcasses in a remote place on the land you hunt and check it early in the morning or hunt it
in the evening or night. To me, even if you don't get any yotes, it's still fun trying to out smart them.

[Qaz]

 Your problem is not getting them to come to the call, it is seeing them when they get there. In the beginning, forget night hunts, too many things going on and too hard to spot them before they figure out what is going on. For now, I would stick to calling the first two hours at sun rise and the last two hours til sunset. The coyote will feel more comfortable coming to the call and you will be able to see them better.
 Where I live, you only hear them yip at sunset, but not often. I hunt mainly wooded areas and you will hear them coming in the leaves, but trying to find them with a light is almost impossible.
 This is the best advice I can give: I don't know if a coyote gets educated by hunters that call him and don't kill him, but he rarely makes the same mistake twice, unlike us!

Good luck! Qaz

[Mckie Hollow]

Some years ago I was not having any luck. I talked to Dennis Kirk about this more than a few times. He told Me not to try to call @ night. The mistakes You'll make will just educate the coyote. Early morning and dusk was the best times. His advise was to just keep @ it, and it was very hard in NY because of the low populations and other callers. I have friends who get a few by using tree stands to call from, over open fields @ night. I'm leary about this, could be the neighbors dog.

[BirdHunter94]

Well i hear coyotes almost every night up in Ostego county. they howl like crazy. especially when my uncle guts a deer. one time while turkey hunting on a field me and my uncle saw something about 150 yards away and we thought it was a fox then a deer but we figured them out to be coyotes. we had a hen decoy out and just started using a diaphragm call and boy they booked it towards us. my uncle said some guys coyote hunt by doing exactly the same thing as when they turkey hunt. one night around 10:30 in the winter me, my uncle and cousin went out to a gut pile and i have to say that was probably the scariest thing I've done. we had dying flashlights and my uncle had a 9mm. But if you don't turkey hunt you can pick a 6 or 7 dollar call at dicks that works marvelously.

[Jim_Ole_Timer]

How long of a time do you call for? Just a few calls then wait 10-15 minutes then try calling again? And do you think the electronic callers are good and if so what calls do you play and for how long?

[Jellyhead]

There are plenty of coyotes in  Niagara County, If you live near there, start knocking on doors and asking the folks for permission.