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Re: Blackhorn 209 Site
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2009, 04:11:28 AM »
tc scout,

My bet is you had some oil in the breech plugs flash hole? Did you swab the bore and pop a couple primers to clear out any remaining oil before loading? A tight fitting saboted bullet is also desired for good ignition.
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Re: Blackhorn 209 Site
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2009, 02:43:56 AM »
Thanks Busta, But the barrel was clean and dry as was the breech plug. Prior to loading the breech plug had been removed and cleaned with a wire and degreaser, barrel was swabbed with several clean patches with plug out. No oil is used thereafter, only a small amount of silicone grease on the plug of which I am certain none got in the flash hole.

I am meticulous about cleaning my guns and could clearly see light through the plug flash hole after reassembly. As I stated previously the bullet/sabot combination had been shot 75 times or more with not a single problem and they are a very tight fit.

So this is very perplexing as to what happened, my only thought at this time is a bad primer as I stated.

Another thought that crossed my mind was could the powder have soaked up enough moisture in 3 hours to delay ignition?
It was a very damp,rainy day, although the gun was not subjected to direct rain.
Could this be a problem with this powder that has not showed up until now? I hope NOT, as this is an excellent powder, accurate and clean.

Don't know if the conditions can be duplicated at the range, but will give it a try in rainy March.

                                                                            Thanks Again for your thoughts, TC
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Re: Blackhorn 209 Site
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2009, 06:47:56 AM »
tc scout,

With that information, I too would say it was your standard CCI 209 primer. I have had a problem at the range with one standard CCI primer hang fire in my Knight under good conditions. I have never had a CCI Magnum or Federal 209A primer hang fire or misfire, but prefer the Fed 209A due to the CCI Magnums wanting to come apart and require a recock and dry-fire to knock the primer back ito the cup. The Federal 209A's even stay together in my White M-98 Elite open action plunger gun. The Winchester W-209, both the CCI and CCI Magnum primers come unglued.

I won't hunt with anything that does not perform 100% at the range, so those standard CCI 209 primers will not be used to ignite BH209 again. Get yourself some Federal 209A primers and I think your hang fire troubles will be a thing of the past.
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Re: Blackhorn 209 Site
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2009, 03:22:05 PM »
Thanks Busta

   I think we might be getting to the crux of the problem.
   As I stated before, I thought it was a "primer problem".

  With your new information I believe more than ever that this is where the problem lies.

  Will be getting some federal 209A primers to try out ASAP.
  Might even shrink my groups with better ignition.

                                               Thanks Again for your help, TC
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