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Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« on: January 18, 2009, 06:13:28 AM »
http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satellite/IMO_GA/Story_C/2009+New+Hunting+Rifles?packedargs=pagenum%3D6

Kinda looks like a Genesis/Triumph cross breed to me. They also have a new Buck Stalker, according to the article. Has anyone else seen anything else new in the inline muzzleloaders? Please post if you have.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 02:23:18 PM »
Is there a reason Knight can't just buy a Triumph and make an exact copy of it?  Do patent laws not apply to CVA/BPI & Traditions?
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 05:30:16 PM »
knight needs to fire some people are hire people who can design some good looking guns.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 11:48:40 PM »
Traditions must not think so.  The Pursuit is a copy of the Knight Shadow.  I don't think any of the break opens are good looking, but you'd think patent laws would cover these designs.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 09:11:07 AM »
IMO the shadow is one of their worse looking rifles.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2009, 09:24:53 AM »
I agree, I don't know why anyone would copy it.  A full camo job might help.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 09:40:15 AM »
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It seems to me that both CVA & Traditions have always cloned rifles after the most popular selling guns in the US Market... The trick was to clone then under-sell.  And most likely they are not violating any pattent rules because they make changes in design to clear themselves of that violation. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 09:44:35 AM »
That bothers me, but I guess most folks are ok with it.  Which one was the MK-85 knock off?  I think I owned one for a few months before I gave it away.  It was very accurate.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 09:54:29 AM »
Quote from: Swampman on January 19, 2009, 09:24:53 AM
I agree, I don't know why anyone would copy it.  A full camo job might help.

yeah camo would help.

I wonder what company will copy the CVA Apex?
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 10:09:04 AM »
I thought it was a Knight KP1 clone.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 10:26:20 AM »
Heck no, Apex is much nicer.
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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 10:40:21 AM »
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I thought it was a Knight KP1 clone.

There certainly are a lot of simularities - but didn't it all start with a Thompson Encore... also look how many different copies of the Omega have arrived on the market...

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Re: Triumph clone? Traditions sure tried with the new Vortek!
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 10:52:19 AM »
None as good as the original though.
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