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STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« on: February 17, 2009, 05:30:45 AM »
A friend invited me over to look at some guns he inherited from his father. One rifle that was very interesting to me was a Stevens single shot marked .25-20 (barreled action, no stocks). I might even be interested in making him an offer for it. Can someone tell me what it would be worth?

I think the action was marked with a patent date of 1894, but am not sure. What model would this be called? The barrel was marked .25-20 and I am wondering if this is the current .25-20 Winchester which I think in the past was also called a .25 WCF. Or would it be a .25-20 Single Shot or a .25-20 Marlin which are listed in Cartridges of the World?

The action seems smooth and tight, but the extractor is either broken off or entirely missing. The outside of the action still has a lot of the color case hardening, but there is a lor of small/shallow rust pits, so I think it needs to be either smoothed off and blued or color case hardened. The outside of the barrel also has a some shallow rusting and some scrathes so for me would need to be refinished and blued or browned.

I could not tell the condition of the bore as it was put away uncleaned. Since old ammo was probably black powder or at least had corrosiove priming I guess the barrel is well pitted. I would probably have a liner put in it in the "modern" .25-20 so that the label on the outside of the barrel matched the chamber. I assume the action is not real strong so one would only use low pressure rather than the "high-speed" loads for the .25-20. Would this action be stronger than that, like strong enough for something like a .22 Hornet or .218 Bee or .30-30 Win or .25-35 Win?

I think one of the old "long" scopes, or a modern replica of one, would look good on it. Or another possibility would be to put a tang peep sight on it as it already has holes taped for one. Also, since the stock is gone one would have a lot of possibilities for stock configuration and quality of wood. Any help would be appreciated.




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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 04:19:01 PM »
I have one that looks just like yours only with the wood on it. :D
The only difference is my metal is a little better than yours but yours has better case colors than mine.
Mine is chambered in 25-21 STEVENS.
Haven't been able to find out much about it.
I believe they were model 44 or 44&1/2.
I bought mine about 4 years ago from the estate auction of a friend who passed away.
I gave $150.00 for it.
I almost had it bought for the opening bid of $50.00.
Neat little guns.
I have located some brass for it and just got some old Speer 85gr bullets from my hunting buddy.
I haven't checked into dies for it yet.
I think it would make a fun small game rifle.


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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 08:21:30 AM »
The rifle pictured appears to be a Stevens Model 44 1/2, from approx 1914.

The caliber should be .25-20 STEVENS, aka the .25-20 Single-Shot, a cartridge much shorter than either the .25-21 STEVENS or the .25-25 STEVENS - but different than a .25-20 Winchester/.25WCF/.25-20 Marlin  repeating rifle cartridge.

They were made for early, low-pressure blackpowder rimfire rounds, with a few later low-pressure centerfire rounds offered optionally.

There is no way this action is halfway strong enough for something like a .22 Hornet or .218 Bee or .30-30 Win or .25-35 - or even a .25-20 Winchester/.25WCF/.25-20 Marlin.

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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 06:50:45 AM »
The rifle pictured is a Model 44. Its block swings down on a large pin that looks like a screw that has slots on both ends. The rifle is, in all probility, chambered for the 25-20 ss round. If it is in really good condition it will handle this round loaded with black powder or smokeless powder cartridges loaded to black powder pressures. Stevens chambered this model in 22 Hornet for a while but they discontuned it as the gun "shot loose" after a time. This model makes a really nice 22 rifle. You might not be aware that it is a "take down" model. There is a screw in front of the trigger guard that when loosened allows the barrel to be unscrewed. The block must be lowered so the extractor is clear of the extractoe slot in the barrel. The breech block can be altered to a rim fire configuration.

The model 44 1/2 is a true dropping block like a Sharps or Winchester 1885 that slides up and down at a near 90 degree angle to the bore in a mortise. It is very strong and was chambered in much larger calabers.

Parts, such as extractors, are available from Weisners And several stockmakers can supply semi finished wood.

The rifle as pictured and as described would be worth probably around $400.00.

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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 12:53:38 PM »
I stand corrected, as I didn't look close enough at the breechblock contour, etc.
As a New Style Ideal No. 44 rifle, it could go as early as 1898.

Thank you, Calaloo

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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 05:05:08 AM »
Thanks for all the good info. - DON

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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 09:35:03 AM »
In 1952 I bought a M44  in a gun store in Jacksonville , Fla. for $12 it had been a 25-20 ss but the chamber had been bored our and insert soldered in and rechambered for the 25-20 WCF.  It shot pretty well, as I remember, with factory ammo. My $12 rifle wasn't near as purdy as that one though.
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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 09:42:44 AM »
Does anyone have an idea when mine was made?
Serial# is 63xx.


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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 01:41:36 PM »
Ages of elderly Stevens arms will all be WAG's - since Steven's conveniently "lost" all their production records in a factory fire - just after the US Gov't decided to investigate them for war profiteering, during WWI.

Stevens was the largest arms maker in the world, back then - and were a VERY prolific company.

A low serial number, in the 6xxx range would most likely have been made in either the first or second year's production run of a particular arm.
IIRC, Model 44's were made starting sometime in 1894; while Model 44 1/2's were started in 1903.

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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 05:08:24 PM »
Thanks Rangr:
I kind of thought it was first or second year but didn't know what that year was.


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Re: STEVENS .25-20 SINGLE SHOT
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 05:35:52 PM »
 A Stevens 44 barreled action (if the bore is good) will go around $250-$400. Stocks are easy to get from several plces if you don't mind doing the final fitting of 90% stocks. CPA, Crossno Stocks, and Trebone Carving all have semi inletted stock sets. Occasionally a buttstock or forearm will show up on Ebay, if you can confirm they are for the 44 with the seller.
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