Author Topic: Ejector versus Extractor (Read 702 times)

rickt300 · « **on:** April 09, 2009, 05:42:41 AM »

I have one barrel that is an extractor (44 Magnum) and my 223 that is a ejector. My ejector barrel doesn't sail the cases that far and it is hard to catch them near the breach as they bounce back into the barrel over the ejector, then I have to close the action again/ try again. I can see how the ejector model would be quicker to reload if you let your brass hit the ground. Years ago I had a H&R 410 that launched the cases so hard it could put your eye out if you weren't careful. The extractor barrels would seem to have less trouble with cases sticking as my 44 magnum has yet to stick a case.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2009, 05:49:54 AM »

It takes some practice to get a routine going to consistently catch ejected brass, it's also embarrassing at the range with several rifles, some ejectors and some extractors, maybe not so much for a youngin, but it is for us old guys!!

Tim

44magHunter · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2009, 06:10:14 AM »

Is there a way to convert an ejector to an extractor with out haveing to do to much modifications?Sorry for the dumb question I'm new here but have read the FAQ's.Lots of good info in there.

Hunter

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 09, 2009, 06:15:34 AM »

Welcome Hunter, there are several ejector to extractor conversions listed in the FAQs.

Tim

teddy12b · « **Reply #4 on:** April 09, 2009, 06:18:21 AM »

I used to have a 30-06 with ejector. I really liked that it ejected the brass and it wasn't too hard to catch that big empty piece of brass. The biggest advantage to a Handi rifle over an encore is the ejector.

gstewart44 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 09, 2009, 06:30:45 AM »

I have a 4570 and a 243 both ejectors and I love them. Maybe I got lucky but I have had zero failure to eject with both barrels. I have practiced taking a fast second shot with either barrel and the ejector is a must for a quick second shot.

I know each person has a preference of ejector or extractor but for my purposes the ejectors suit me fine.

Sourdough · « **Reply #6 on:** April 09, 2009, 07:01:15 AM »

I do not, and will not, own a Handi with an extractor. Have never had a stuck case. Had two bad ejectors on the .223 and the .35 when new, sent them to the factory where they were fixed. No problems since. It's easy to catch the empties when at the range to keep them off the ground. And if I ever need a fast reload, I don't want to be fumbling with a case that is only sticking out a fraction of an inch with cold fingers. I want that case gone, so all I have to do is drop in a fresh round period. My life might be dependent on it.

I have and shoot .17HMR, .223, .243, 30-06, .35 Whelen, and 45-70. Plus several shotguns, ejectors all.

OR-E-Gun Bill · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2009, 07:20:29 AM »

Sorry to interupt the debate but the OP's statement,
"My ejector barrel doesn't sail the cases that far and it is hard to catch them near the breach as they bounce back into the barrel over the ejector, then I have to close the action again/ try again."
sounds like a broken or weak ejector spring or maybe gummed up.

OK, now returning you to the ejector vs. extractor debate...

I have both extractors & ejectors and have no preferences. One, a 30-30, came modified from ejector to extractor and I've not changed it back. This modification does provide a much larger chunk to grab ahold of as opposed to the factory extractor.

Bill

rickt300 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2009, 07:23:04 AM »

I was actually entertaining the "debate" when I posted the thread initially but thanks for bringing up the possible problem with my barrel, I'll check it out.

wreckhog · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2009, 07:37:37 AM »

You guys are more coordinated than I. Hate ejecting an unfired round (climbing fence, putting gun in car, etc) , and having it sail away never to be seen again.

gstewart44 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2009, 08:22:12 AM »

I agree with Sourdough.....if you don't want the cases (fired or unfired) sailing back it is very easy to cup your hand over the breech as it unlocks. The case pops right into your hand. It is a very easy movement.

Chas. · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2009, 08:59:29 AM »

Quote from: Sourdough on April 09, 2009, 07:01:15 AM

I want that case gone, so all I have to do is drop in a fresh round period. My life might be dependent on it.

You're in a situation where your life may be in jeopardy, and all you have is a single-shot? Sounds like you need to be somewhere else.

Troyboy · « **Reply #12 on:** April 09, 2009, 01:28:13 PM »

I have both types. I can see if you were on a hunt and you wern't worried about the brass than the ejector would be great. Love it for the shotguns. BUT for range work the extractor is THE ONLY WAY TO GO. Chasing that brass when you switch between guns and forget is a pisser.

Swampman · « **Reply #13 on:** April 09, 2009, 03:30:24 PM »

I prefer the extractor. I reload.

BC Steve · « **Reply #14 on:** April 09, 2009, 03:36:08 PM »

Quote from: Chas. on April 09, 2009, 08:59:29 AM

Quote from: Sourdough on April 09, 2009, 07:01:15 AM
I want that case gone, so all I have to do is drop in a fresh round period. My life might be dependent on it.

You're in a situation where your life may be in jeopardy, and all you have is a single-shot? Sounds like you need to be somewhere else.

I was thinking the same thing.

Dustyvance · « **Reply #15 on:** April 09, 2009, 03:53:01 PM »

I have The BC in estractor and I have a 410 and a 20 Guage that both have ejectors, love them all.

44magHunter · « **Reply #16 on:** April 09, 2009, 03:57:37 PM »

Quote from: BC Steve on April 09, 2009, 03:36:08 PM

Quote from: Chas. on April 09, 2009, 08:59:29 AM
Quote from: Sourdough on April 09, 2009, 07:01:15 AM
I want that case gone, so all I have to do is drop in a fresh round period. My life might be dependent on it.

You're in a situation where your life may be in jeopardy, and all you have is a single-shot? Sounds like you need to be somewhere else.

I was thinking the same thing.

Dont we all take a chance like that when we enter the woods.You never know what you may run into out there.My prefered carry gun was a 12ga H&R shotgun with an 18 1/2'' barrel when I used to go hiking in bear country.Reason being is it was light easy to carry and manuver.With a little practice I was able to fire 3 shots just as quick as I could using a pump action shotgun.

Swampman · « **Reply #17 on:** April 09, 2009, 04:03:23 PM »

Why would anyone need more than one shot?

vincewarde · « **Reply #18 on:** April 09, 2009, 07:01:08 PM »

My $ 0.02 worth:

In a hunting gun where I might need to reload, I want an ejector. With a fresh round in a wrist band on my right wrist, I can reload at least as fast as a bolt action that requires a shoulder dismount to work the bolt. Just hit the latch and cock the hammer with the right hand, grab the new round, drop it in and close the action with the left (both hands working at the same time of course). Practice with dummy rounds helps. Yes, I know it's a single shot - but I still might need a follow up shot in spite of my best efforts

On the range, or in a varmint gun, I think an extractor is preferable.

Sourdough · « **Reply #19 on:** April 10, 2009, 07:00:53 AM »

I've lived here 38 years, and I started carrying singleshots over 20 years ago. I do share the woods with Bears, both Black and Grizzly. The only rifles I have carried in the last 5 years has been Handis, with one exception. I carry a mini-14 on the handlebars during the winter when I might run into a pack of wolves while riding my snowmachine. With the exception of wolves, (which can sometimes be fast and furious shooting) I have only needed more than one shot, one time (Moose someone else had already shot that was getting away, the first time I ever shot at 700 yards, hadn't factored wind). But the possibility exist that I may need to make a quick follow-up shot. When that time comes I don't want to be fumbling with removing an empty from the gun. I want it gone, so all I have to do is drop in a new round.

As for moving, no way, why leave paradise.