Author Topic: Anyone interested in trading material for work? (Read 1275 times)

barefiel76 · « **on:** February 28, 2009, 02:12:20 PM »

I was recently offered some 3 foot long pieces of 2.5 inch steel. Is anyone interested in making me a coehorn mortar or howitzer barrel in exchange for the rest of the material? Example - you make some thing for me using 12" and keep the rest. Of course I'll pay shipping. Let me know if anyone is interested.

guardsgunner · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2009, 02:48:53 AM »

barefiel76
What exactly are you looking for?

barefiel76 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2009, 02:44:02 PM »

I am looking for something simple to expand (start) my collection. I will send you some pictures of what I had in mind. Unless I'm being unrealistic about the true amount of time going into a small project.

I also found out today that there might be a 2 or 3 foot piece of 2.5 inch OD brass scrap too that I can have. They are seeing if it is still around.

I'm having a tough time attaching pictures. Can someone PM me to let me know how to do it?

Double D · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2009, 03:08:57 PM »

What you attached is word document. Instead doing that go to the folder when your pictures are and attach them instead of inserting them into word docment and attaching that.

There is also a sticky at the top of the board that will leads you to a link on picture posting. Heres the link http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums//index.php/topic,3460.0.html

dan610324 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:43:51 AM »

that brass piece could be a very beautiful cannon , 3/4" cal and 20" - 22" total length .
then you got material for the trunnions also if its 2 feet long .
if its 3 feet it could be a golfball mortar also , or maybe 2 .

I attach an original drawing here from an artillery handbook dated 1706
but this is just my style of cannons , you probably want something from the cw period .
the 2 at the bottom I really like .

but its lots of work so I guess you need to put in a few bucks also , no one works for nothing , or almost nothing

steel and other metal prices are the lowest now since approximately 10-15 years .
they even talk about closing the steel plant here in town now .
soon this can be a ghost town .

about the attacments , its very easy .
when you finished your writing just click the "additional options"
search for your picture in the computer and attach it
then just post it .

barefiel76 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:59:04 PM »

Dan,
I looked at the drawings you attached and what's not to like???

I found out tonight the rods are 304 stainless steel and there will be about 12 to 20 feet of material.

Now Dan... the material trade for labor reflects the tough economical times and lack of money. The War Department said "No more crazy spending". I'm coming up with ways around the W.D..

I guess it's time to go for the sympathy ploy and mention the 5 month old baby we have......

dan610324 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2009, 02:57:54 PM »

he he he

thats a lot , and stainless are still expensive .
you could try to have someone to make an barrel from the brass rod and pay them in stainless .

GGaskill · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:09:12 PM »

2 1/2" material is too small for much other than golf ball mortars, at least in relatively large projectile sizes. Here is a link to a post linking to several golf ball Coehorns built by forum attendees several years ago.

dan610324 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:47:21 PM »

could maybe be enough for a golf ball caliber 1841 mt howitzer , or ??
the stainless would of couse be much stronger then brass .
or a 3/4" cal cannon

GGaskill · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2009, 07:52:48 PM »

It's a little small for a golf ball mountain howitzer (should be 2.68") although you could do that if you make the chamber only 13/16" in diameter.

dan610324 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:59:17 AM »

yeah , and the stainless is a much better alloy then the original cast bronze so I suppose it would be safe enough

dan610324 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:10:01 AM »

who was it that made the sixpack for tropico ??
sorry but my memory aint the best

the barrel at the bottom of that 1706 drawing would look great in brass .
with an 16 millimeter bore

GGaskill · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2009, 08:25:05 PM »

So have you decided what barrel you would like to have?

barefiel76 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 09, 2009, 03:32:12 PM »

I ordered a naval barrel from Dom a little while ago. That should be here soon.

I have been working on a carriage. I should have it ready for a barrel by the end of the week.
I'll have to post some pictures pretty soon. So far it looks pretty good.

I can do the wood working just not the metal work. I'm think I might have to order a couple of the mini barrels so I can work on those as models in between bigger projects.a

Still no takers on on the original offer.

GGaskill · « **Reply #14 on:** March 09, 2009, 03:58:03 PM »

Still no takers on on the original offer.

There are several problems with the original offer. First is the liability issue which no one seems to be able to get around. Second will be the shipping for the amount of material you are talking about. And you still haven't said exactly what you would like to be made from the material in question.

Dom's piece will no doubt satisfy you. Enjoy it.

dan610324 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 09, 2009, 04:12:01 PM »

but if no vent is drilled , could you still get sued ??
then its just a decoration piece ,
if anyone alter that decoration piece couldnt be your responsibility . or ??
if so any pipe manufacturer should get sued for att those "cannons" manufactured from ordinary water pipes .

GGaskill · « **Reply #16 on:** March 09, 2009, 04:20:29 PM »

Dan,

The reality of the American legal scene is that anyone can sue anyone else any time. They may not win but if they lose, they don't pay your legal fees. So people who have to do business carry lots of insurance which the customers pay for in increased prices which makes the US manufacturers even less competitive in the world market.

dan610324 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 09, 2009, 04:27:36 PM »

that doesnt sound to good , not any posibility to come around that problem ??

GGaskill · « **Reply #18 on:** March 09, 2009, 05:23:19 PM »

Not as long as the Congress and legislatures are mostly lawyers.

dan610324 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 10, 2009, 02:20:28 AM »

ok , the only way then is to build cannons that you can load with nitroglycerin without bursting

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #20 on:** March 10, 2009, 06:29:57 AM »

Quote from: dan610324 on March 10, 2009, 02:20:28 AM

ok , the only way then is to build cannons that you can load with nitroglycerin without bursting

That's one of the reasons why most of my mortars are OVERBUILT in dimensions and materials.

dan610324 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 10, 2009, 10:06:42 AM »

well now I do understand why
then it would probably be really dangerous to sell correct scaled bronze scale models to usa .
maybe best to forget that idea , and also the idea to teach how to cast your own piece .
as I probably could get sued for that also .
better to just have fun by myself .

barefiel76 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 10, 2009, 01:06:49 PM »

I was only trying to approach this from the stand point of a mutual benefit. Ideally someone in Michigan would have said I can take it and the next time I make something, I'll make you something.

Considering your question about what type of barrel I was thinking? Beggers can't be chosey....

I think you always run a risk of someone doing something stupid. That's why sites like this are great for teaching people the right way to do things.

dan610324 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2009, 03:20:42 PM »

yeah , this is the absolute best website on this topic .
and much of it because our moderators who keep us at the right track .

guardsgunner · « **Reply #24 on:** March 11, 2009, 12:05:26 AM »

barefiel76
I had considered doing it but I have to many projects in which am involved with others right now. Perhaps for your second gun.You are close enough,there isnt shipping. We normaly finish our projects(or quit maching)the end of april.

Bob

Double D · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2009, 07:12:40 AM »

barefiel76,

You might want to contact our sponsor directly with your request and see if they might work a deal with you. But before you do that it would be helpful to know what cannon you are interested in having made.