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Offline Graybeard

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OK Ladobe what are these???
« on: August 30, 2003, 06:05:22 AM »
Decided to join the fray. Got a couple photos of these critters one morning and haven't a clue what they are. Since this is your area of interest can you identify them?






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OK Ladobe what are these???
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2003, 07:28:28 AM »
Wow the one up top is beautiful, I'll have to show the missus.

Careful asking Ladobe for an id., you'll have to take remedial Latin.  :wink:

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OK Ladobe what are these???
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2003, 08:19:02 AM »
GB - does a southerner know how many ears a raccoon has?    :wink:    Welcome to the forum pard.

Jack - Please notice that I included some common names for you "hide in the closet" types.   :)

Top picutre is of an Imperial Moth (Eacles imperialis) that can have a wingspan of up to 7" and is a Saturnidae (silk moth family).   No other moth in North America looks anything like it (northern race is subspecies puni though).   It occurs all along the Atlantic from Maine to the Florida keys and west into Texas.   The adults never feed, but its larva (caterpillar) feeds on conifers and deciduous trees and shrubs, such as pines, oak, box elder, maples, sweet gum, and sassafras.   Their larva are large and quite spectacular (I'll put a picture below).   This species is single brooded and flies just after dusk.   BTW, there are also some subspeices found in Mexico, Central and South America that are considerably larger.

Bottom one is probably a Grape Leaffolder Moth (Desmia funeralis) that is quite common in the south (hard to tell from this picture, and there are several possibilities from 3 different families).   I am picking this one becasue it appears to have 2 white spots on the abdomen, and only 2 white spots on the forewings and only one on the hind wings (but I can't tell from the pic if the wing margins also have some white fringe).   Wing span would be up to around 1.5" on this one.  If so, its in the Pyralidae family and feeds on grapes (well duh!), but also redbud and evening primroses.    As the name implies, its larva fold the leaf over and silk it together to form a chamber to pupate in.  This species is multiple brooded.

Here are their larva....  hope this answered your question GB.

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OK Ladobe what are these???
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2003, 12:56:22 PM »
I do not believe there was any white at the fringes of the wings of that second one. Sorry for the poor photo quality but the light was poor and that dang auto focus camera didn't exactly focus as well as I'd have liked and I didn't review them until way too late to go back and redo it.


Yes that answered my question quite well. Thanks. I don't think I've seen either of those larva but will watch for them.

Here is another for ya.

Green Spider found on zinnias.


And yet another on zinnia.


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