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air gun
« on: February 08, 2009, 11:41:35 AM »
looking fore a air gun.. got a cat problem >:( the house to close to shot a 22rimfire.. should i' get a 177cal 22cal can you kill a cat with a air rifle ??? ??? shot birds with a bb gun a lond time ago   ::) ::) who makes a good gun under 200$$ thanks WORM ;D
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Re: air gun
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 02:16:51 PM »
Hey gunoil  8) :   The RWS Panther is an attractive little pellet gun for $200.   A single cocking gun, but should be good enough for around the house.   The Benjamin-Sheridan 397 (.177 cal)  or 392 (.20 cal), are pump guns for around $140.  They take a little longer to pump up, so it's usually a one shot don't miss event.   Just happen to be looking at them today.   They get expensive real quick.

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Re: air gun
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 01:54:22 AM »
  Think twice before you shoot a cat.  I'm not weak in the gut about killing whatever needs killing, but there may be serious repercussions if you do it. 

  First problem, it's likely a felony.  My neighbor shot a dog with a BB gun to scare it out of his yard.  Kids saw him do it, told a teacher at school, CT State Police arrested him.  The dog's owner told the police he would not press charges and felt that the neighbor was in the right.  Teaching the dog a lesson without causing real harm.  Police reply, "It's not up to you.  The State will press charges."  I don't know what the law is where you live, but you may want to check into it.  Shooting a non game, domesticated animal is often classified as 'cruelty to animals' and in todays society you may be treated like a real criminal.

  Next problem, cats don't die easy.  I've shot rabbits and had them keel over on the spot.  I hear moose dies easier that whitetail.  I've killed whitetail but not moose, so that's hearsay.  Cats take a lot of killing.  A friend of mine had trouble with a ferrel tom, shot it with a 22.  The cat ran, luckily cornering itself to a spot where he double tapped it.  Flopping, yowling, more shots.  He ended up emptying the High Standard into it.  Moral of the story, cats often take more than one shot.  That fact may lead to you getting caught.  That brings us right back to problem one.

  As I said before, I'm not squeamish.  I own about 100 birds (my wife's hobby actually but I have to protect them)  Exotic game birds are expensive and all kinds of animals want to eat them.  I have to do what I have to do, even if it's someones beloved fluffy killing my stock.  I have been lucky on that count and mostly shoot fox, and rats upon rats with the occasional other bird killer in the mix.  I understand that you may need to kill a cat.  Society and the law may not get it.

  My take on air guns is go big.  The .22 kills better than the .177 in my experience.  Others may disagree, but that has been my experience.  A cat may well run off anyway.

  Consider a live trap for a nuisance animal that you don't want to get in trouble for.  You could take him to the pound, or drown him in the bath tub where no one else will know.

  There is an old saying among animal raisers about problem critters.  "Shoot, shovel, and shut up."

  Good luck.  Stay out of trouble. 




  One last note, a felony 'cruelty to animals' charge would preclude you from EVER legally owning guns.  Is this problem cat worth that?  Buy or rent  a live trap, dig a hole, and DON'T post the outcome on the internet.

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Re: air gun
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 04:16:15 AM »
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Jlwilliams :  cats don't die easy  -  -
That is very true.   A bad shot at a dog or cat in the neighborhood can get out of hand very quickly.

  
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You could drown him in the bath tub where no one else will know.

Animals don't drown easily.    I watched two biology college students attempt to put a live cat in a burlap sack for a class project.    The cat had other ideas and balled up on them tooth and nail.  Those guys were a bloody mess.
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Re: air gun
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 07:33:17 AM »
Excellent point.  Perhaps I should clarify.  If you need to drown a live trapped animal, DON'T take it out of the trap.  Just put the whole trap under water.  The only animals I have ever put down that way were wild, predatory animals and I would not advise having close contact with them, particularly if they are alive.

  Letting an angry animal go free from a live trap can be a production too.  If you have a raccoon or the like in a hav-a-hart trap and you want to let him go, do so in a way that doesn't give him the opportunity to run out of the trap, and straight up your leg.  He will be fighting for his life.

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Re: air gun
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 03:38:39 AM »
back 2 thee air gun question on cats , i got a beeman and it came with 2 barrels (.22 and .177) the 22 being about 800 fps and the 177 about 1000 add about 200 fps with pba ammo. i know it will kill a cat because i shot a coon @ 35 yrds with a head shot....plop. I got this air gun at wal-mart for 125. another alternative is 22 cal cb rounds that are pretty quit exspecially when you shoot inside the window letting the room take the initial sound.......good luck

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Re: air gun
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 04:07:26 PM »
I've shot cats in a rural setting, where people like to dump them, thinking friendly farmers will care for them.  I always used a 22 and had few bang flops, even with head shots.  As said above; cats are tough kills and getting caught isn't worth it.  Live traps are the best.