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TX Hill country trip is over.
« on: January 22, 2011, 06:40:47 PM »
Well We are back from the trip to TX hill country, Wow what a great bunch of people down there. We had a fun time. In the last 6 months I have studied up and tried to learn all I could about hogs and hog hunting, I now know that until you see the area you plan to hunt you can't plan a lot in advance. I had my lights set up (focus point) and guns sighted to be 70 yds from the bait. Well as it turns out the distance was either way less than 70 or long shots. I should have just left all guns zeroed at 100 and went with it.
When we first arrived we met the man who manages the hunting priveleges on the ranch and he took us in a little hunting rig to tour the property he said one of us should bring a gun, well not 400 yds from the cabin we found a group of feral goats on the side of the huge hill. My friend Tim had his rifle with so he was able to take two of these goats right away. the shot was almost 110 yds very much at an upward angle. It was late afternoon and we were supposed to learn all the ranch boundaries so I said I would bring the goats down while they did the rest of the tour.
I got them down before they got back so I went and got my gun and a camera and went back up the hill.
The buck or ram was very strong smelling so we only took the head, but the doe was mild smelling and we had some good (never thought I would say it) eating off her for the 10 day trip, the stew was actually very good.
We put any remains of the goats in a pile area the manager told us to, and the next morning after scouting and finding the area Tim (my friend) had seen while learning the boundaries. We left a ground blind by that feeder all ready for the afternoon hunt and we went back to the cabin and decided to go put the trail camera by the meat scrap pile. We were kind of worried because we had no directions for the camera and were not sure if the set up was right.
We ate lunch and headed out to the blind for the afternoon/evening hunt. We saw many of the same deer over and over that week, some nice bucks and some very curious fawns who just didn’t know what to think about the blind. (in one location we had set it up inside a fence by a deer feeder just to keep us away from the hogs... we were a little worried at first) It was fun to see deer like that and not even get a bit of buck fever since we were there to hunt something else. But after seeing no hogs come to the corn, we packed up and headed back to the cabin. It just so happened that right when we were getting back by the cabin going past the road that goes to the goats we saw a flash from the trail camera about 250 yds away. We both looked at each other and thought there were coyotes or pigs in the meat scraps. And we drove over there quick and in the headlights we saw a group of pigs by the pile and one stood there as the others went off to the left. I was stopped and Tim stepped out and shot the one that was still in the light of the headlights. It dropped and squeeled So Tim got back in the truck and we drove up quick (120 yds or so), I was trying to get my pistol out and load it (had it in the pack in the back seat) and I heard a second shot, with a LOUD “HE’S DOWN”! And I turned to see a very happy and slightly shaken Tim. He said “I will never get out of the truck again until we know where the wounded pig is. I was looking toward the cabin and it was right behind me in the grass, it wiggled and I heard it so I shot it again.”
So It was the end of our second day and Tim had two goats and a nice 166 pound boar. We took it up to the meat pole and removed the back straps and they smelled fine, just like any pork, and there was at least an inch of white fat over the whole back. So it smelled good and we took 4 qtrs off and the back straps. Went in the cabin for goat stew, and had a small sample of boar backstraps with it for supper.
We set up the blind in that location for the next two nights but no pigs returned to the meat scrap pile for the rest of the trip. I hunted in back where we saw the most active corn feeder that had rooting around it, I sat there alone the last night in just a brush blind and Tim sat in his blind over by the place he shot the pig and goats. We both sat for maybe 5 hours that evening/ and got back to camp around 10 p.m.

We got up in the morning and checked where we had been watching and saw no pigs, and pulled the corn feeder tubes I had out. And I was just going to rest and call it a trip, but the sun was out and I figured it was just wimping out to quit, so since Tim was out glassing the hill and hunting I figured I would go for a little walk, and Ended up going way farther than I thought I would and went to the farthest hunting place we had been and then returned hooking around a huge hill then cutting up over the top as it was just starting to get to be toward dusk. I saw some great sign and I forgot my camera on this walk so didn’t get any more cactus/rock/hill pictures….

The last afternoon our license was still good I did get to shoot one of the goats, but I never saw any pigs other than when we drove up on them when Tim shot his.
I learned that if there are multiple feeders on a ranch you never know where the pigs will be, with a 2 day long rain ending the day we got there there were puddles every couple hundred yards in big flat rock pools. So hunting the water holes was out. With acorns dropping they can go anywhere and find food. The corn feeders are just a bonus for them. So this MN guy learned a lot about TX hogs in a 5 day stay in the TX hill country. I would love to go back sometime, but I will have to change the title from a “pig hunting” trip to “nature trip and cactus thorn pulling trip”. I was very surprised how rough the country was, While driving down we saw some hills and some flatter brushy country but all the sudden when we entered the hill country it got wilder. It was a very good trip and we had a fun time. Thanks to anyone here who helped prepare me for the HOG HUNTING part of the trip. I just was amazed at the country. I am not sure I will ever get to do it again, but we sure had a good time.
Oh- yeah the LED lights I made worked great to lighten up the coons running around on the bait, but we never got to use them for a hog.

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Re: TX Hill country trip is over.
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 02:11:35 AM »
Hunting is like that.  Too bad you were not able to shoot a deer.  Seems they were abundant and the hogs scarce.  Fun to watch though. 

Every time I return to a place I am more confident.  The first time though is a learning experience, humbling too in many respects, particularly retrospect.  But that is the flavor of the story.  After all, it was a HUNTING Trip not a killing one.

As for sighting in range, I have to agree with you that 100-yards is a good choice.  Still, I sight in today for 200 yards, because I KNOW IN ADVANCE that I could get a shot at that or slightly longer distance, depending on where I set up as I ALREADY KNOW the lay of the land.  The first year though it was 100 yards, open sights, and I knew the bullet drop at longer distance so I could take that "Kentucky windage" shot if it was needed, but it wasn't.  I too didn't shoot a deer my first trip.  Saw some does but no bucks.  

The next year I had a scoped rifle and a 200-yard zero knowing to shoot low if the distance was half.  On a deer, that "shoot low" isn't too critical.  The deer kill zone is quite large.  The hog kill zone is only slightly smaller, depending on the weight of the hog.  Since shooting little "footballs" is also fun and quite legal, knowing the distance is as important as bullet drop, or rise above LOS, so the two should meet at the intended killing zone.

I don't know much about not eating meat that has a strong smell when butchered.  Perhaps the TX folks will enlighten me.  The FL pigs and deer we routinely kill are either residents that have been eating a smattering of corn from my feeder or acorn and wild grape fed fresh off of the St Johns River flood plain.  I have had ONE pig in a lifetime of hunting that seemed to have worms in the muscle meat, which was subsequently left as feed for the gators in a local ditch.  All have been "strong" smelling in the intestines and body cavity.  That is just how it is.  They all tasted good when properly prepared.  Never ate goat though.

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Re: TX Hill country trip is over.
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 06:14:58 AM »
What part of the Hill Country were you hunting, Janitor?

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Re: TX Hill country trip is over.
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 07:14:06 AM »
We were by Llano. And the brisket at Lairds in town is VERY good.  ;D
The local game warden had stopped to check on us too and he was very helpful and a nice guy. I had called him before the trip to make sure we could do everything that seemed so illigal in MN but he assured us what we heard was correct.
I see now why people use dogs to find them, they can be anywhere.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 07:29:54 AM »
Awe good area. Our place is right down the road in Marble Falls. I frequent Llano quite often. I like the town. Both areas have tons of deer but Llano seems to have more hogs. Congrats on a good hunt!

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Re: TX Hill country trip is over.
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 07:32:40 AM »
I don't know much about not eating meat that has a strong smell when butchered.  

Land-owner- I know from raising pigs on the farm as a kid, with a male pig if it isn't for breeding it gets castrated at a small age/size to keep the horemones from making the meat strong. This boar meat smelled just fine, when I was in H.S. a butcher gave us a pig all frozen in qrtrs that once they butchered it, found it had a nut inside that was missed, called an "original" I guess, well when we cooked any of it it stunk nasty bad. But if we cooked it outside on the grill the smell was outside, when we ate the meat it didn't taste bad, why???? But the blame of the stinky cooking was placed on the missed testical. I was told before this trip to smell the meat once you cut into it while raw,(not the gut cavity) you will know if it is an "active" boar that is stinky by the smell of the fresh cut of meat. I don't know if that is true, but on the farm we never would have ate a boar, it just wasn't done. (on our farm, so I assumed all farms) And if we hadn't smelled the meat and passed the test we would have just taken pics and left it lay.... So I am glad we tried it and now know a boar doesn't always taste bad or have stinky meat. If we go again I now know it doesn't make it bad just because it is a boar. In fact we were so worried about the strong meat issue that we had planned to take sows first if the choice came along.
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Re: TX Hill country trip is over.
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 07:38:42 AM »
Awe good area. Our place is right down the road in Marble Falls. I frequent Llano quite often. I like the town. Both areas have tons of deer but Llano seems to have more hogs. Congrats on a good hunt!
Thanks! We had a nice time, back to work Monday with fresh snow to scoop.... I miss TX. :-\

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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 07:46:11 AM »
Next time you come down we can do lunch. Just don't bring the snow.....LOL

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 07:56:04 AM »
Sounds good- I would be happy to do both. -thejanitor

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 03:28:06 PM »
Any hog, male or female, can smell badly when cooked because the scent glands in the upper thighs and hams have not been removed during butchering.  They are peanut sized and shaped glands with a light brown color.  They exist deep in the fat layer and if it slips through to be cooked, goodbye appetite, hello to toss it out.  We baked a ham once, discovered the scent gland was still in, it was glaringly obvious by its BAD smell, and we had to go out to dinner while the house aired out.

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 05:25:21 PM »
THATS the smell! stunk the house all up (back when I was a kid) It is one you don't forget too soon.  thejanitor

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Re: TX Hill country trip is over.
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2011, 04:21:13 AM »
Glad to hear us Llano folks treated you right.  Was the game warden you spoke with like 9 feet tall?  Anyway, the hogs have been a bit scarce around here.  Lots of sign, but not a lot of hogs around.  I finally got a doe a couple of weeks ago and didn't see any hogs while I was out.  We had a very active deer season here (good sign that the economy has recovered) and they may still be gun shy.  Sounds like you had a good time, though.

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 12:40:27 PM »
Good Point, Land Owner. I have done almost the same. Forgot about those glands.

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 12:44:15 PM »
I am still waiting to compare notes with jMayton  (:   Yes Llano folks are great!

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2011, 02:55:06 PM »
I am still waiting to compare notes with jMayton  (:   Yes Llano folks are great!

I thought I replied to your pm.  Hmmm, maybe I was busy then and just intended to. 

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 03:24:49 AM »
Yeah the Warden is quite tall. But I thought he was very nice and informative. He didn't talk "down" to me (I'm kind of short) for being some what ignorant to many things about the animals down there. Tried to give us pointers to be successful. I wouldn't want to make him mad, but the conditions I met him under, he was a great guy. thejanitor

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 03:35:27 AM »
Yeah the Warden is quite tall. But I thought he was very nice and informative. He didn't talk "down" to me (I'm kind of short) for being some what ignorant to many things about the animals down there. Tried to give us pointers to be successful. I wouldn't want to make him mad, but the conditions I met him under, he was a great guy. thejanitor

All our wardens are great around here. . .as long as you're legal.  But he's a good friend and just a great all around guy. 

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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2011, 07:13:33 AM »
Texas Wardens are supportive of sportsmen. Years ago I was on a public dove hunt near Hillsboro. We didn't see many doves.  A warden came by, checked our permits, and said let's get you guys some doves. We followed him to a new area and it was great. Oh, I got your pm JMayton. just wondering how your season ended over yonder.

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2011, 07:54:01 AM »
Mohawk, sorry I've been a bit distracted lately.  I finally went out to a friend's and got a small doe.  I didn't have many chances to go out, and we weren't seeing many and I popped the first one that stood still long enough.  I only got 24lbs of bacon burger out of her.  But, she should taste good.

And I have to agree with you about our warden's here.  They really are great.