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Offline littlecanoe

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Wolf tracks?
« on: March 15, 2009, 02:28:46 AM »
Ok fella's.  I'm not starting a country legend here but have a serious question.  Have any of you heard of wolf sign being  seen in the state?  Not coyote.  Wolf.

I have a friend up in Casey Co.  He lives at the edge of some pretty rugged country and found a track in a bare are of a food plot.  He mixed up some plaster and cast the track.  A wildlife biologist confirmed the track as wolf based on the characteristics of the print.  I'm hoping to see the print in a week or two.  Anybody else seen anything like this?
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 08:52:22 AM »
I've heard rumors of wolfs returning to Ky but have seen no proof to back it up, Personally I think thier may be a few around, same with the Pumas.
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2009, 11:58:56 AM »
I'm wondering if an illegal pet got loose.

This wildlife biologist told my friend that if F & W were brought into the picture they would deny anything just like denying that cougar are around.  There was a calf kill in the Clementsville area of Casey, a bit over a year ago, that was supposed to have been done by a cat that could only have been larger than a bobcat. 

It all makes you wonder anyway.
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2009, 12:04:28 PM »
What charicteristics does a wolf track have that a large dog, say an Alaskan Malemute or a husky not share?  Now I can see how an expert can determine mountain lion tracks from a bob, lynx or feral cat. But to be able to distinguish a large dog track from a wolf sounds suspicious to me.
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 12:57:26 PM »
Quote from: littlecanoe on March 15, 2009, 11:58:56 AM
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This wildlife biologist told my friend that if F & W were brought into the picture they would deny anything just like denying that cougar are around.  .....


Why does State F&W seem to go out of their way to disprove or debunk these kind of facts /sighthing?  Even some cases reek of a conspiracy theory!  It's not just KY but most states?!
 
But why?  What is the motivation?
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 01:12:05 PM »
Quote from: RaySendero on March 15, 2009, 12:57:26 PM
Why does State F&W seem to go out of their way to disprove or debunk these kind of facts /sighthing?  Even some cases reek of a conspiracy theory!  It's not just KY but most states?!
 
But why?  What is the motivation?

I'm sure it's not the entire reason, but you must have read about or witnessed some of the political fights that ensue when hunters realize their state is being overrun with wolfs that are killing everything from farm animals to Elk and the state won't allow anyone to do anything about it. Like I said, I'm sure that's not all of it, but I'll bet it's at least part of it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 01:47:26 PM »
I had a game warden drop a hint, That as long as they don't reconize them as being here, they are not here, and they don't regulate hunting them. So no lisence or season required. Hint hint nuge nuge say no more. ::)
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 03:11:25 PM »
Billy,  I'm thinking that you are right.  I've been looking on the net a bit and it appears the it's hard to tell the difference.  He said that the track is pretty large.  Once I see the casting of the print I'll post back and maybe take a pic if I have a camera handy.

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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 04:15:13 PM »
Quote from: Badnews Bob on March 15, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
I had a game warden drop a hint, That as long as they don't reconize them as being here, they are not here, and they don't regulate hunting them. So no lisence or season required. Hint hint nuge nuge say no more. ::)

Definitly say no more. I think they are still on the endangered or threatened species list. We have a big bunch of timbers here in MN.
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 04:27:03 PM »
I know of at least two Wolf breeders here in eastern,kentucky..Thats the only way I can see it. Anythings possible I suppose.
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 01:54:23 PM »
I know a guy in my county who has several wolves. I would guess that if the track your buddy found is a wolf track, that it was probably somebody's that got out. I too agree also with Billy, its is most likely a coyote or big dog track. I've seen coyotes with huge feet. Man, just think, if it is a wolf and it crosses with coyotes.... :o
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 04:48:38 PM »
JonD,

It's about 20 miles east of your grandparents place.  Give or take. 
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2009, 06:41:26 PM »
Theres a breeder in West Liberty and in manchester that I know of..
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2009, 05:15:50 PM »
Well I saw the plaster of the track today.  A medium glove fits my hand just right and I have a fairly meaty hand.  Making a fist, the track stretched from the heel of my hand to the point of my thumb.  I had my fist placed sideways across the track.

I wasn't able to get a pic but the toe pads were separated from the primary (heel?) pad by about 3/4" to 1". 
I don't know what made the track but it wasn't a chihuahua! 

He has a trail cam out in that area.  Hopefully he'll get a pic and confirm what out there.
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 07:42:27 AM »
That's big...
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Re: Wolf tracks?
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2009, 02:00:09 PM »
A wolf track is much like a big dog but they seem to have longer toes and seem to spread out more than a dog when on soft ground. This might be genetics from deep snow. They are bigger then a dog too if full grown. If you keep seeing tracks look for big  scat loaded with hare. If you find that it's a wolf for sure. (hope it's not a wolf)
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