PF9 Lifecycle

[jeep08ham]

What is the life of a PF 9 if feed normal and not +P loads?   Also I see in the manual they do not recommend shooting reloaded shells.  Why, if they are not super hot loads?   Does anyone reload for the PF 9?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and advice!

[shaner]

hard to tell on life , if you mean till it needs service id guess?? 3-5000 rounds as most handguns , by then they should need springs or whatever?? it also  have to look at how the gun is cared for  in the time frame of the rounds thru it ,,, as for the not shooting reloads , i think all manufactors  tell you that , just covers their butts, on problems  before hand id say, i reload for every caliber ive ever owned in all  my firearms  shotgun , rifle and handgun ,

[woodchuckssuck]

The longevity question is asked on Kel-tec boards once in a while, seems most people agree they have never heard of a completely shot-out gun in kel-tec's 14 year history. And, If you do happen to shoot it so loose it doesnt function properly, Ive also read quite a lot that Kel-Tec will rebuild the whole gun, new frame and all IF it was to come down to that. Their customer service is noted as second to none. I havnt had to deal with them yet, well beyond ordering a spare mag and grip extensions for my P-11, which I have yet to shoot (just got it tuesday, too cold out).

Sure, Kel-tec's aint nothin pretty, but they are built well and serve a general purpose: Concealed Carry. Their rifles intrigue me, especially the Sub2000... When they make a Sub2000 in .45acp, ill buy one. If it comes down to a survival situation, my 1911 is gonna be my main sidearm.

As for reloading, I dont think too many manufacturers recommend it. How many of us does that stop?

[Savage]

Longevity? I own R06XX. One of the first to go on sale in my area. Bet mine doesn't have more than 200 rds thru it! At that rate it will last more than a lifetime. If not, that's where the lifetime warranty comes in. These guns are not made to be high volume plinkers. There are too many better choices for that. Reloads? You bet! Most, if not all manufacturer's have that disclaimer. Great little pistol for the money. I have a lot of other carry pistols. This is the one I carry 90% of the time.
Savage

[markp]

Opps  just noticed this post is pretty old. But for what its worth kel tecs website says all thier guns have a minimun life expectancy of 6k rds.  If a light weight gun lasts that long I think its done quite  well.

Question I have about the pf9 is can it pocket carried   ??

[canon6]

I carry mine in a DeSantis Nemesis .R/F pocket and it is very concealable..hth    Doug

[rockbilly]

Mine will probably last a “lifetime.”…………………I am not impressed with it at all, it is very cheaply made, the trigger is junk, in addition it bites my finger when firing.  The fit is the poorest I have seen in a modern gun.

I bought mine before having an opportunity to look it over thoroughly, I like the sights and light weight for carry but if I were advising someone on buying I would direct them to the “Bersa Thunder, ”  or to a Polish P-64 Makorov.  The P-64 is half the price but is much better made and the fit of a P-9 can't come close to that of a P-64, it is almost the same size as the P-9 but thinner, it weighs three times what the P-9 does, but is ten times the pistol.  Down size, it is 9x18 caliber and the sights are not the greatest.  Hornady makes a 95gr JHP/XTP bullet that performs well and is great for a personal defense. Load.

As for shooting reloads, I have fired quite a few through my P-9, there have been a few jams where the round refused to chamber, (the cases had a budge where the bullet is seated in the case).  If it is a mild load I see no problem is shooting them for practice, etc, but I would load with a quality JHP for personal defense.

Oh, did I say I think the P-9 is trash?

[markp]

Rockbilly  sorry you dont like your pf9. I imagine they are not for everyone. I cut my teeth on dbl action
revolvers and Dont mind the trigger at all.

I own or have owned a bersa thunder and a bulgarian mokarov.  I like them both but they are heavyer !  Thats where the pf9 is in a class by itself.

When you are ready to throw out your trash rockbilly let me know. I'll Be glad to take it off your hands.

[rockbilly]

Markup.  Compare the P-9 to a "Polish P-64, it is almost a PPK clone, the same size as the P-9 except thinner.  The P-64 it in a total different class than the other, mostly military, Makorovs, but it is heavy, almost three times the weight of a P-9.  It is a DA/SA pistol.

As for the trigger on the P-9, it seems to have an excessive amount of creep, but the creep isn't consistant.  One shot may seem like it takes forever to get off, the next may go before you expect it.  I guess I just like the idea of having an exposed hammer and a let off that comes as expected.

I agree the P-9 is light and easy to carry, but if one doesn't feel comfortable with a carry gun they should leave it at home and carry something else, thats my choice.  The P-9 will likely find a new home sometime soon.

[44 Man]

After my accident, I have been unable to carry my usual .45 acp.  Even the cylinder of my little J frame presses in the wrong place (I was hit by a drunk driver while walking across the street).  Since then my little PF9 has filled that place just perfect.  Light, accurate, and not too bad to shoot, although I would not want to put 200 rounds a day through it.  Some complain about the fit and finish, I say if that bothers you just go out and get a $600 Kahr compact.  I'll take my Kel-tec anyday.  44 Man

[rockbilly]

To each his own, I still own the Kel-Tec but it will be finding a new home. 

I must admit it is light and easy to carry, but I prefer a SA/DA gun with an exposed hammer and a safety.  As for the fit, finish of the Kel-Tec the major complaint I have and that I have heard from friends is the gap between the slide and frame.  Most people that “pocket” carry say after a while it gets full of lint and has, on occasion, prevented feed, no problem if you have the time to clean often, but I don’t.  That coupled with, perhaps, the sloppiest trigger I have ever seen on a gun is the major fault I see in them.

I don’t have any physical defects that prevent my carrying whatever I choose, so I likely won’t be packing the Kel-Tec.

By the way, I actually have TWO, a black, and a gray frame, you want to but them?

[uncledub]

Where will they be advertised and for how much?

[rockbilly]

Uncledub, The Gray gun found a home, my son took it for a truck gun, one he could leave there and not get excited about if it were stolen. I will take $280.00 for the black gun which includes a new (still in the plastic) mag., the gun has digested less than a box of ammo. You will pay actual shipping from my FFL to yours.

Shoot me a PM if interested, it is going to my FFL this afternoon and to a gun show with him this week-end.  so it may not find it's way home.