GOA or NRA or both?

[Redhawk1]

your reply is weak and lame , I said they do alot , 800 lb gor... etc. But and thats a big but they make a fortune so get over it

My reply was not to you, but if you see fit, take it to apply to you as well.

I keep seeing people crying and wining all the time about the NRA, but they have yet to give a better solution.
So all you cry babies, what say you. Who is going to top the NRA in protecting our gun rights? Are you going to step up to the plate and hire some lawyers and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for lobbyists? Because that is what it is going to take. Come on, it is so easy.

It is easy to sit around complaining and wining, come on step up to the plate and give us a better solution, if not pipe down. 

[SHOOTALL]

I support t5hem , I also see their profit . Maybe that's what makes um tick.

[Cement Man]

Unless I am missing something, the NRA is a non-profit corporation.

I don't tell others what to like or not like (I don't think I do anyway), but I do like the NRA magazines.  I like the ads too.  A lot of times this is how I learn about new products I may be interested in.  I don't get into the raffles, and I do not care for telephone solicititations - but I realize it is a fund-raising activity and I just ask to be off the calling list and ignore the "junkmail". It's not so hard.  Big deal.

I like being a member of the NRA and I think they do a good job. I like the safety and training programs that they sponsor, and the shooting events.  I am generally in agreement with their positions on gun control.  I do believe that they are the most influential of the pro-gun organizations, and that with their state and local affiliated organizations they make a good package.  I look at the NRA more wholistically and don't look for perfection.  When I buy from certain vendors I always do the "round-up" and maybe add something.

We will be in a big fight for our 2nd amendment rights for as long as we live and I think the NRA is important.

[SHOOTALL]

cement man next report the NRA sends out check their net worth . Its in the millions . Not that its a bad thing at all . But to say they don't make money is plain silly .

[pastorp]

A non profit orginazitation has to have money. It takes money to fight all the legal battles the do and fund all the programs they have. Non profit means that the money is not personal net worth of their leaders, sure they recieve salaries could you afford to work for free.  I think not. Regards,

[Cement Man]

I would hope that their revenues exceed expenses.  I am a member and a donor, so to me that is a good thing so that they can carry on the mission.

[SHOOTALL]

That I agree with to a point . Got to ask at what point does retained wealth exceed acceptable ? Would 70 million ?

[7 MM]

Graybeard,
Thank you.
There is something you and I do agre on and that is the NRA.
Thanks for putting it into a grerat post.

7 MM

[Redhawk1]

Graybeard,
Thank you.
There is something you and I do agre on and that is the NRA.
Thanks for putting it into a grerat post.

7 MM

What is your better solution? Don't ride Graybeard's coat tail, speak up for yourself. At least give some supporting comments to his post, and not just pat him on the back and agree with all he said.

[thxmrgarand]

I continue to wonder if this Graybeard bulletin board should not field its own candidate for the NRA board of directors.  I do not believe we can do without the NRA and on the whole I am happy enough with the NRA (even as I understand that not everyone agrees).  I see no potential for another RKBA outfit to grow large enough and prominent enough to (for example) attract national political figures to their annual meeting, have press coverage from the major media outlets, and be able to contact millions of gun owners within a few days of some event or opportunity pertaining to our rights.

When the so-called Violence Policy Center tells NPR why they (VPC and NPR) are having no luck taking our gun rights even though the White House and Congress have a decided anti-gun bias the only organization named is the NRA.   So if we are unhappy with the NRA or if we are suspicious of how the outfit operates then we should try to work from within (since recreating the NRA is likely impossible).

I am sure most everyone agrees that VPC, NPR and most of Hollywood would like nothing better than to see a civil war erupt within NRA.  The anti's were very happy the last time that happened.
 

[SHOOTALL]

GREAT IDEA !

[Redhawk1]

I am sure most everyone agrees that VPC, NPR and most of Hollywood would like nothing better than to see a civil war erupt within NRA.  The anti's were very happy the last time that happened.
 

That is so true, that is what the GOA was starting to do. They were trash talking the NRA, but the  NRA stayed out of the mud slinging crap. What the GOA wants is what the NRA has, members and money.

As for as getting someone from this site to be candidate for the NRA board of directors, that would be a great idea.

[nw_hunter]

I belong to both. It seems GOA is more in tune to getting it done in DC? What do you all think?

A few people on the forum, for some reason hate to give anyone but the NRA credit for doing anything positive for the gun owners in America.

Here is an email alert I received today from The GOA.
Here is what Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma had to say about the Gun Owners Of America (GOA)


Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org


"Gun Owners of America was the most consistent and loudest voice on
Capitol Hill in support of the effort to repeal the National Park
Service gun ban." -- Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK)


Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Good news!

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill today that included an
amendment to repeal the gun ban on National Park Service (NPS) land and
wildlife refuges.

The amendment, sponsored by Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) and attached to a
credit card industry reform bill, passed the House overwhelmingly by a
vote of 279-147.

[Redhawk1]

I belong to both. It seems GOA is more in tune to getting it done in DC? What do you all think?

A few people on the forum, for some reason hate to give anyone but the NRA credit for doing anything positive for the gun owners in America.

Here is an email alert I received today from The GOA.
Here is what Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma had to say about the Gun Owners Of America (GOA)


Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org


"Gun Owners of America was the most consistent and loudest voice on
Capitol Hill in support of the effort to repeal the National Park
Service gun ban." -- Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK)


Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Good news!

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill today that included an
amendment to repeal the gun ban on National Park Service (NPS) land and
wildlife refuges.

The amendment, sponsored by Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) and attached to a
credit card industry reform bill, passed the House overwhelmingly by a
vote of 279-147.

nw_hunter, it is not that anyone does not want to give them credit. It is just facts that you refuse to  listen to. The GOA has not actually accomplished one thing in the pro-gun movement on there own. They do not have the power or backing to make things happen. Maybe they finally did some good here.

What happens here is, people fail to give the NRA credit for there accomplishments,  and compline about the magazine and trivial BS.

GOA membership 150,000, NRA 3.5 Million.

[Redhawk1]

I belong to both. It seems GOA is more in tune to getting it done in DC? What do you all think?

A few people on the forum, for some reason hate to give anyone but the NRA credit for doing anything positive for the gun owners in America.

Here is an email alert I received today from The GOA.
Here is what Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma had to say about the Gun Owners Of America (GOA)


Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org


"Gun Owners of America was the most consistent and loudest voice on
Capitol Hill in support of the effort to repeal the National Park
Service gun ban." -- Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK)


Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Good news!

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill today that included an
amendment to repeal the gun ban on National Park Service (NPS) land and
wildlife refuges.

The amendment, sponsored by Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) and attached to a
credit card industry reform bill, passed the House overwhelmingly by a
vote of 279-147.

nw_hunter, it is not that anyone does not want to give them credit. It is just facts that you refuse to  listen to. The GOA has not actually accomplished one thing in the pro-gun movement on there own. They do not have the power or backing to make things happen. Maybe they finally did some good here.

What happens here is, people fail to give the NRA credit for there accomplishments,  and compline about the magazine and trivial BS.

GOA membership 150,000, NRA 3.5 Million.

On Wednesday, NRA-backed legislation to restore the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens in national parks and wildlife refuges passed in the U.S. House of Representatives by an overwhelming bipartisan majority of 279-147. Today, the measure was signed into law and, as specified in the legislation, will take effect in nine months, on February 22, 2010.   This was a major repudiation of the gun control community's anti self-defense agenda.

The current Department of Interior (DOI) regulations were amended by the Bush Administration in 2008, allowing law-abiding citizens to defend themselves by carrying a concealed firearm in national parks and wildlife refuges.  However, early this year, a federal district court in Washington, D.C. granted anti-gun plaintiffs a preliminary injunction against implementation of the new rule.  NRA has been working for the past several years in the regulatory, legal, and legislative arenas to achieve this policy change.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4901