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need help with H&R
« on: June 01, 2009, 06:14:40 AM »
picked up a H&R action  at a swap meet ,,what like to know what can i put on this action here the sn BB 433xxx,can some body help me ,i think its rifle or shotgun action

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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 08:27:28 AM »
H&R won't fit any accessory barrels to it, it's too old, serial numbers must start with N or H for that, most older H&Rs were shotguns only, although they did offer some low pressure chambered rifles on some models, you can try to fit a second hand shotgun barrel to it, barrel fitting info can be found in the H&R Centerfire rifle forum FAQs and Help sticky, barrels can be bought in the H&R Classifieds here.... and welcome!  ;)

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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2009, 10:17:40 AM »
thanks quickdtoo ,are any of theses ok with my old set up im looking at ,410ga or 12ga ,22lr, 22 hornet ,30/30,45/70

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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 10:40:19 AM »
None of the rimfires will work with the centerfire frame, those centerfire rifle barrels were available on some models, but I wouldn't try them on your frame unless the particular frame you have was originally barreled with one. H&R won't fit any of those barrels to current production SB1 shotgun frames, they will fit 357mag and 44mag to SB1 shotgun frames made since 1987, but not yours. An SB2 rifle frame is required for the Hornet, 30-30 and 45-70 by H&R standards, there was no SB1 or SB2 designation prior to 1987, they were all just cast iron frames.

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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 11:53:12 PM »
My model157 Hornet is on the same BB prefix as you discribe that may be a 1987 frame or it may be a left over during the Bankrupt start over of 1986 I surly doubt they will fit a bbl as no one seems to have any records of bb ser #'s they don't exist mine was an orphan til you came along. Mine is case color whether it's hardened is anyones guess but mine has no issues with the 22Hornet on it. Please let us know if you ever find anymore info on the BB prefix. Kurt
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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 05:46:30 AM »
how do you tell the size of firing pin ,im looking at this one it looks small but looks like nub, can some body give the size of the two  pins

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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2009, 05:22:18 PM »
The big fat one is nearly3/16" and the small one is about as big as a pencil lead the rimefire looks like this (-) only up and down.Kurt
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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 02:39:40 PM »
phatinjun the firing pin is .073  os what do i have rifle or shotgun  thanks

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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2009, 03:20:24 PM »
If i was to guess with what I do know and what you have told us. I would say your frame prolley came with a 22Hornet bbl 30/30 bbl maybe even a 357 being a BBprefix most likley a Model157 maybe even a 22Jet. kurt
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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 12:27:21 PM »
That would be a small pin, the large one is nearly .100
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Re: need help with H&R
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 03:44:57 PM »
'BB' prefix was used in 1985 - possibly less than a year before shutdown of H&R Arms Co.  It may be "unfinished stock", that is:  never installed on a completed firearm.  All of H&R's single shot rifles and shotguns were stamped on the left side of the receiver with a Model number, during this era.  If there is no model stamped on your receiver - then see above.  With a round centerfire firing pin of that size, it was intended for a center fire rifle.  H&R's at that time were chambered for .22 Jet, .30-30, .22 Hornet and .45-70, and possibly some other calibers, can't remember without looking into the research data.
Jim Hauff,  H&R Collector

RIP Jim, passed away on October 12th, 2012