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Need advice for soldering turret mount bases on a K98k
« on: May 17, 2009, 06:45:33 PM »
As the title says, I am coming along with a replica K98k low turret sniper project, and got the scope properly mounted into the rings already with solder.  Unfortunantely the guy who mounted the scope in the rings is in Austria and I am in Tennessee, so I can't get him to help me with this.  So at this point, the bases for the front and rear mounts need to be soldered onto the receiver properly to be shootable, and I could use some advice as to prep work, what type, temp and brand solder to use, and how to use it to mount these bases without messing up the heat treatment of the receiver and without messing up the finish.  Any suggestions? ??? Thanks.

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Re: Need advice for soldering turret mount bases on a K98k
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 06:09:31 PM »
I think if it is finished it is a little late to be silvering the bases to the receiver.  You will need the finish off the action where you solder the bases.  Silver solder needs to get the metal to a dull red to take, so it will probably hurt the finish.  You could try going with soft solder (tin lead), may hold it and it melts at about 650 degrees F.  Silver is the proper product, but the soft lead tin may be better for what you need.  Use a acid flux with the soft solder and see if it gives you what you want.  Larry
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Re: Need advice for soldering turret mount bases on a K98k
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 09:38:32 PM »
Thanks, Larry, I appreciate the suggestion.  :)

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Re: Need advice for soldering turret mount bases on a K98k
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 06:43:11 AM »
Sweat soldering with soft solder is the way to go.  It will not hurt the bluing or ruin the heat treatment of the receiver.  It is also safe to solder the bases onto the receiver with the scope rings attached.  Note that the european craftsmen that do these mounts always use soft solder.

Brownell's Force 44 solder is what you can use, although a basic 50/50 tin/lead alloy or even an eutectic (low temperature) 63/37 electronic solder is suitable.  The soft solders melt at about 600 degrees Fahrenheit (less than 400 degrees for the eutectic solder) with more than adequate holding strength.

The key to getting a good, strong joint is to carefully fit the mount bases to the reciever for 100% contact.  Scrap, file, and try for a close fit with no rocking motions indicating surface mismatch.  Mark, scrap, and file the receiver surfaces to remove all bluing.  Tin both surfaces if using ordinary solder and rosin flux.  Acid flux will damage bluing.  Apply the sheet solder and flux if using the gunsmithing solder.  Clamp into position using bare wire twisted up tight.  Apply heat gently using propane or soldering torch.  When the solder melts, tighten clamp and hold until cool.  Use brass brush and alcohol to clean off excess flux.  Done properly, the soldered joint will be almost invisible.
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Re: Need advice for soldering turret mount bases on a K98k
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2009, 06:27:46 AM »
Thank you also, John.