Hey! The moment of truth for the Republicans!

[Questor]

Are the Republicans really going to stand up for a conservative constituency? We'll find out at the Sotomayor confirmation hearings?

Any bets on how they will conduct themselves?

This will tell how the 2010 and 2012 elections will play out.

[nomosendero]

"Any bets on how they will conduct themselves?"  Yes, all but the very few true conservatives who are left will fold. She is not only Hispanic, but Female Hispanic & the majority of them will think of votes & not principle. That is why I have written them off & joined the Constitution Party recently.

[Dee]

The moment of truth for the Republicans? There ain't any truth in them. They too are "left of center".
Way to go nomosendero. The Independents are at least pro-Constitution and pro-Bill of Rights. That's the ONLY TRUTH.
My signature speaks the way I feel about that bunch of horse thieves in D.C.

[JPShelton]

The Republicans will roll over and play dead during the confirmation hearings like they did today.  It is certainly no acccident that the President announced his pick for the Supreme Court on a day when the Congress is on a break.  In his view, by announcing today, he would have the media spotlight all to himself.  His view became a reality, thanks to shortsightedness on the part of the Republican Party

They should have been able to anticipate that the President would  do as he did and make the nominee announcement today.  After all, he and his minions do have a track record of low tolerance for dissent or opposing views, so making such an announcement when there wouldn't be any opposing view to be heard from anyone in Congress in D.C. was totally predictable.

Unless you're a Republican politician, it seems.

What they should have done, in anticipation of such an announcement, would have been to assign the duty of response to various Republican politicos -wherein, the Honorable Soandso from Thisandsuch is on "response duty" on Tuesday, another has the duty on Wednesday, another has the duty on Thursday, and so on and so forth.  That, of course, would require proactive planning and a minor modicum of sacrafice on the part of those representatives having their vacation plans interrupted by taking on such "response duty" during this congressional break.

It seems like that was too much to ask for.

Thus, I suspect that any real opposition to the nominee on the part of the Republicans during the confirmation hearings will likewise be too much to ask for. 

-JP

[Dee]

Well JPShelton, although I agree in principal with all you say, what does the Republican Party have to say that we haven't already heard? They tell the conservative what they want to hear, but never actually deliver on any of it.

The Republicans and Democrats have a MONOPOLY INVOLVING ALL ELECTIONS, and THEY MERELY TAKE TURNS AT BEING IN CHARGE.
THINK NOT? LOOK AT THE RECORDS OF WHOM HAS BEEN PRESIDENT SINCE THE OFFICE WAS INVENTED.

Want a REAL CHANGE? Then break the monopoly!

[JPShelton]

Well JPShelton, although I agree in principal with all you say, what does the Republican Party have to say that we haven't already heard? They tell the conservative what they want to hear, but never actually deliver on any of it.

I am not a registered Republican anymore and I am not a fan of the Republican Party of today.  I do believe that the current Republican Party leadership do tell a conservative base what it wants to hear without the intent of delivering on any of it.  It is a simple case of power over principle.

That said, I wouldn't mind at all if the Republican Party would say a few things that I've already heard, particularly if they were many of the things that I heard President Regan say when I was in my early teens.  I wouldn't mind at all if they talked about limited government, liberty, and personal accountability like Regan did.  It wouldn't bother me a bit to hear a lucid argument for supply-side economics again.  It wouldn't bother me a bit to hear my President put forth a compelling argument for the need to invest in a strategic missle defense program that would protect us from nuclear ballistic missile threats.  It wouldn't bother me a bit to hear my President speak to the world about those things that make America and Her people great.  It wouldn't bother me a bit to hear some great conservative ideals championed once again.  The fact that I heard it all before nearly three decades ago from Ronald Regan wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

To be more accurate, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if it came from people like President Regan, who I believe to have been a genuine "kindred spirit" who really believed in liberty and limited government.  Regan wasn't perfect.  He was human.  But he remains the closest thing to perfection to ever occupy the Oval Office in my lifetime.

As an impressionable teen, I believed him when he said that I could achieve anything my ambition, drive, and determination could dream because I was an American and that's what Americans do -we dream big dreams, set loftly goals, work hard to achieve them, and keep on striving, even when we falter and fail, never giving up or quitting until our goal is fully realized.  I believed him when he said that I was blessed to live in a land where a person could rise from poverty to fortune and fame just like he did.  I believed him when he said that the best thing that government could do for me was get out of my way and let me be the best that I could be and achieve all I was capable of.  I still think he was sincere in his beliefs and I'll probably carry that mindset with me to my grave.  Many have tried to convince me otherwise.  All have failed.

There was a time when men of principle fought the good fight in the battle of ideas and ideals, and many of them were in politics and had (R) next to the their name.

Sadly, it seems that the United States of America that I lived in when Ronald Regan was President now exists only in fond memories.

And yes, I blame the Republicans for that as much as I blame the Democrats.

But the group that I really blame the most are my fellow Americans who, in the span of three decades, proved all too willing to sacrafice liberty on the altar of a sense of entitlement, allowing selfish greed to trump the concept of freedom when they marked their choices on their ballots.  I blame them, because people like Pelosi, Fienstein, Schumer, McCain, Specter, Bush, and Obama can't occupy offices that they don't get elected to.  I also blame those so supremely selfish that they can't be bothered to get involved with the process, be informed, and execise their franchise at the ballot box.

We still have a government of the people, and by the people.  Right now, in many ways, we have exactly the kind of government that the majority of us deserve.  That doesn't mean that all of us deserve it, however.  For those that do, their selfish government is a reflection on their selfish selves.

As for me, I'm ready to seceede from the union and leave this self serving government to the same self serving citizens who have allowed it to exist.

-JP

[Dee]

Well JPShelton, as you live among MANY OF MY RELATIVES there at Tahlequah, we once again agree, however, I believe you may as well give up on the Republican Party. They have made the deal with the devil, and have laid down with the lobbyist.
Your Oklahoma, and my Texas would be much better off to secede from this rogue government, that has abandoned US! They are now, and have been for quite some time, FOR THE GOVERNMENT, AND BY THE GOVERNMENT. We have become servants, and cash cows to them. The Republican, and Democratic Parties IGNORE US OPENLY.
It is time to BE INDEPENDENT, and VOTE INDEPENDENT, and BREAK THE MONOPOLY.

[nw_hunter]

Well JPShelton, as you live among MANY OF MY RELATIVES there at Tahlequah, we once again agree, however, I believe you may as well give up on the Republican Party. They have made the deal with the devil, and have laid down with the lobbyist.
Your Oklahoma, and my Texas would be much better off to secede from this rogue government, that has abandoned US! They are now, and have been for quite some time, FOR THE GOVERNMENT, AND BY THE GOVERNMENT. We have become servants, and cash cows to them. The Republican, and Democratic Parties IGNORE US OPENLY.
It is time to BE INDEPENDENT, and VOTE INDEPENDENT, and BREAK THE MONOPOLY.

Right you are!, and it's time for the independent parties to come together as one, and put their small differences aside.

I would like to see them put their resources into runs for the House and Senate, instead of wasting their time and money shooting for the Presidency. Just think how much better off we would be with more like Ron Paul in DC.

With the Republican and Democrat parties being the same.................Just write in none of the above on the ballot for Pres.

[BBF]

A good start would be with your State Reps and Senators.

[nw_hunter]

A good start would be with your State Reps and Senators.

I agree, and some could make it to the federal level as a Congressman. It would be very hard to win a Senate seat, and the Presidency is impossible at this point in time.

I checked out all the third party platforms and the Constitution party's platform "I think" is more in line with the founders thinking. I became a member of the C. P last year, and voted for their Presidential Candidate ( Chuck Baldwin) I'd like to see the Libertarian,Constitution party and others merge, and become more effective.

I haven't seen a Republican candidate worth voting for. I voted for G W twice, and I'm still trying to find a way to kick my own A_ _ for being so damn stupid.

[Swampman]

Sotomayor is going to be confirmed.  It doesn't matter what anyone does.  You guys who didn't support McCain/Palin are to blame for this mess.

[mirage1988]

A good start would be with your State Reps and Senators.

Good advice from a canadaen.

[dukkillr]

Sotomayor is going to be confirmed.  It doesn't matter what anyone does.  You guys who didn't support McCain/Palin are to blame for this mess.

True.  I'm so happy we didn't end up with that RINO McCain.  We're way better off now!

[beerbelly]

If you think we are better off with Obama, you are nuts!
                 Beerbelly

[jimster]

Republican's are washed up and should be for what they have done.  Which is basically vote with Dems for many years before 2006.  My guess is their "larger tent" will be empty of true conservatives. 

"You guys who didn't support McCain/Palin are to blame for this mess."

Now Swampman you have me really wondering what would be different if McCain would have been president....I say nothing.   We could use Palin in Congress, along with more Ron Paul types....we need to fix Congress more than the person who takes the puppet seat of president.  We basically have the same Congress in place for many years, corrupt, greedy, and power hungry, all of them.  The way they do our busnisess and vote on legislation is a crime, and it's a crime the way they add thousands of things that would never stand alone as a seperate bill. 

Congress is the key and what we need to fix, we fix that, the president's spot will automatically be fixed and fall into line.  As long as people keep trying to pick a president to "save them"....they will always be screwed and should be for being so ignorant on how things work.
True conservatism starts at your local levels in your State, and grows from there on up,  if you don't grow it from the local levels and State levels first, it won't ever take hold and get into Congress where all the control is at. 

So we all have lot's of work to do, and lots of years it will take.  I personally won't vote republican again, it would take them years to convince me they are really conservative, I have to go independent now, probably for the rest of my life.
So I guess if someone says it's my fault that Obama and socialists are in power...your right probably....but it's your fault for not having conservatism in your party as well.  I'm all done with picking the least of two evils....they all can go to you know where now. 

[nw_hunter]

Sotomayor is going to be confirmed.  It doesn't matter what anyone does.  You guys who didn't support McCain/Palin are to blame for this mess.

Your consuming too much of that swamp water again!
The entire third party vote was only about 3%.  The reason McCain lost was he isn't a Conservative, and a large number of Republicans stayed home or switched to the O. man.

We had a chance to nominate a true Patriot and Conservative, and people like (some on this thread) wouldn't give him the time of day, much less support.

Perhaps conservatives will learn from that mistake, but I wouldn't bet on it! Come next election, if there is one, they will nominate another RINO, and make sure he or she is chosen over a Conservative.

[Dee]

Sotomayor is going to be confirmed.  It doesn't matter what anyone does.  You guys who didn't support McCain/Palin are to blame for this mess.

Your consuming too much of that swamp water again!
The entire third party vote was only about 3%.  The reason McCain lost was he isn't a Conservative, and a large number of Republicans stayed home or switched to the O. man.

We had a chance to nominate a true Patriot and Conservative, and people like (some on this thread) wouldn't give him the time of day, much less support.

Perhaps conservatives will learn from that mistake, but I wouldn't bet on it! Come next election, if there is one, they will nominate another RINO, and make sure he or she is chosen over a Conservative.

True on all counts. Swampy is a quiter anyway. He's already given up. He can't find his way out of the Republican box, OR the swamp bar.

[torpedoman]

go thru all the posts in this discussion and scratch out republican and insert RHINO and you'll find the problem.

[blind ear]

We certainly need to elect conservatives to congress. They need to be limited on the number of terms they serve. They need to represent people rather than coorporations. All political donations should be published. All public and private coorporations ownership and all of thier political donations should be public record and be published and readily accessed .

What other things can citizens demand to take political power back? How will we go about accomplishing any of these things? Voteing for the partys available won't get it done, they are already in the corporate pocket and have PROVED they won't get it done.

 The so called "internet" gave Obama his grass push with every person haveing "grass roots access to him", but in fact it was run by the Democratic party in the end.

Ever who is running things has a serious choke hold on us.

[Dee]

We certainly need to elect conservatives to congress. They need to be limited on the number of terms they serve. They need to represent people rather than coorporations. All political donations should be published. All public and private coorporations ownership and all of thier political donations should be public record and be published and readily accessed .

What other things can citizens demand to take political power back? How will we go about accomplishing any of these things? Voteing for the partys available won't get it done, they are already in the corporate pocket and have PROVED they won't get it done.

 The so called "internet" gave Obama his grass push with every person haveing "grass roots access to him", but in fact it was run by the Democratic party in the end.

Ever who is running things has a serious choke hold on us.

I agree with all said here, and I have an original idea to stop the madness. Let us cure this problem on two fronts. Let us continue to condemn those whom have turned to 3rd party candidates whom support the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and to come and join us. AND! Let's get the bums out of Washington by continuing to vote for the lessor of two evils from now on. That will send a message that we're tired of politics as usual.

[magooch]

Hey, while McCain certainly wasn't as conservative as I would like, I would take him any day, anytime, anywhere over this piece of crap that occupies the White House now.  In fact, if McCain had a strong suit, it was in regard to government spending.  If you haven't noticed, that is what the Kenyan and his willing idiot Congress is doing that is going to bury us in debt and inflation that no one who is alive now will ever see the end of.  And yes, I know we've been in debt for a long time, but that is nothing compared to what is happening now.

Yeah, I had to hold my nose to vote for McCain.  I don't know what the hell people were holding on to to vote for the Obamanation, but it wasn't anything that represents what this country is supposed to be about.  At least McCain is an American.

[45-70.gov]

there is no hope to reform the republican party  if half the good people leave it

there is no hope  for  a 3dr party made up of half the republicans

DEVIDE AND CONQURE

and  if  ALL  the republicans joined a 3rd party
it would be a libeal party

I WISH  ALL  THE THIRD PARTIED WOULD JOIN  AND REFORM THE REPUBLICANS
I  JUST LEFT THE LIBERTAIAN PARTY AFTER  OVER 20 YEARS  FOR THAT REASON

3rd  parties are irrelivent   plain and simple....long live the green party  tho

[Redhawk1]

Well JPShelton, as you live among MANY OF MY RELATIVES there at Tahlequah, we once again agree, however, I believe you may as well give up on the Republican Party. They have made the deal with the devil, and have laid down with the lobbyist.
Your Oklahoma, and my Texas would be much better off to secede from this rogue government, that has abandoned US! They are now, and have been for quite some time, FOR THE GOVERNMENT, AND BY THE GOVERNMENT. We have become servants, and cash cows to them. The Republican, and Democratic Parties IGNORE US OPENLY.
It is time to BE INDEPENDENT, and VOTE INDEPENDENT, and BREAK THE MONOPOLY.

Dee I am going to have to agree with you on this, I am switching my party to  INDEPENDENT.  I have been thinking of this for a while and believe it is my only resort. I don't agree with the Liberal Democraps, and the Republicans have lost there way.

I think more people need to break up this two party misnomer, and become Independent.

[Redhawk1]

there is no hope to reform the republican party  if half the good people leave it

there is no hope  for  a 3dr party made up of half the republicans

DEVIDE AND CONQURE

and  if  ALL  the republicans joined a 3rd party
it would be a libeal party

I WISH  ALL  THE THIRD PARTIED WOULD JOIN  AND REFORM THE REPUBLICANS
I  JUST LEFT THE LIBERTAIAN PARTY AFTER  OVER 20 YEARS  FOR THAT REASON

3rd  parties are irrelivent   plain and simple....long live the green party  tho

Sorry, but thinking like this is what got us into the situation we are currently in.

[45-70.gov]

there is no hope to reform the republican party  if half the good people leave it

there is no hope  for  a 3dr party made up of half the republicans

DEVIDE AND CONQURE

and  if  ALL  the republicans joined a 3rd party
it would be a libeal party

I WISH  ALL  THE THIRD PARTIED WOULD JOIN  AND REFORM THE REPUBLICANS
I  JUST LEFT THE LIBERTAIAN PARTY AFTER  OVER 20 YEARS  FOR THAT REASON

3rd  parties are irrelivent   plain and simple....long live the green party  tho

Sorry, but thinking like this is what got us into the situation we are currently in.

so  you atleast  understand why  i wasted the last 20 years thinking the libertaians had a hope
if   all the libertarians i know  were republicans  the republicans would have a different face
most libertarians  i know are  like i was.......x-republicans


are  you joining the independent party  or  registering as no party affiliation/ indepenDENT of any party??

i  son registered independent....according to his voter card he is a member of the independent party

he  meant he wanted no party affiliation.......and then there  is  the indepenDENCE party  too

some prefer the constitution party.......devide and conquer

[Redhawk1]

I do not know which party I will support, I am looking at them all and decide. I know I will vote for the person that I think will do what is right for America. John McCain was not a good choice, and a worst choice was Berry H Obama. I want a person the will up hold the Construction.

[45-70.gov]

I do not know which party I will support, I am looking at them all and decide. I know I will vote for the person that I think will do what is right for America. John McCain was not a good choice, and a worst choice was Berry H Obama. I want a person the will up hold the Construction.

sara palin may  have upheld the constitution....of the ONLY ones that had a chance

the electoral college would have ONLY picked  the lessor  or worse  of the  2 evils

did  any  3rd  parties  get  even  one  electoal vote?

and when was the last  time  a 3rd party  got  ONE  electoral vote??

we  need to change the election rules  befor we abandon our  ONLY hope as things are now to stop democrats/communist

glen beck  on fox news  said  ''we  only have a choise ad to how fast we move to communism''