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Offline Inrut24/7

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locked up tight
« on: June 07, 2009, 12:07:38 PM »
I put a new ejector in and closed it up, now its locked up tighter than a bank vault. any ideas on how to get this thing to open?  :-\

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Re: locked up tight
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 12:34:56 PM »
You can knock the two lower pins out of the frame to remove the trigger guard and latch spring which will allow the action to open IF there's a problem with the lock up. But since you only replaced the ejector, it's likely the ejector retainer roll pin isn't fully seated, it may prevent the action from opening, you may have to use some force to get it open. I've had an extractor roll pin lock the barrel up making it impossible to remove the barrel, but the action still opened. The ejector roll pin may be positioned just right to keep it from opening at all if it's not fully seated in the underlug.  :-\

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Re: locked up tight
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 12:43:28 PM »
I tried lots of force, it wont come open, The pin is probally not in the whole way as i was just trying it out, I didnt know this could happin.  So am I pretty much out of luck if this is the case?  Will the main hinge pin pound out when the barrel is on?

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Re: locked up tight
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 12:53:12 PM »
Yes, I've not done it, but only with the barrel removed, but the pin can be removed, takes a lot of hammering with a brass drift, or an arbor press if you have access to on, be sure to index it so it can be installed in the same orientation or the barrel won't likely fit afterwards, one member removed it from a brand new rifle for cleaning, the barrel was loose when he put it back together, he sent it back to Gardner to have it refitted.

I'd do the work on a concrete floor so all the hammer force won't be absorbed by the work surface, I use a piece of oak under the frame with the stock removed, and a brass drift with a concave tip to help center it on the round pin head, push it right to left, the left side is splined. A little penetrant may help removal.

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Re: locked up tight
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 04:10:35 PM »
Are the Hinge pins ground on an eccentric?
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Re: locked up tight
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 05:34:03 PM »
The hinge pins are round, just drive them out the same way as the other pins.  They are just like the other pins in the frame but bigger.  Larry
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