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Offline mcwoodduck

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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2009, 11:54:51 AM »
In a book I have aclled Rifles of the world they have some european stocked No1 Ruger rifles that look like the early english fraisers on lee Metfords and other falling locks of the turn of the Century
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2009, 04:20:23 PM »
[In a book I have aclled Rifles of the world they have some european stocked No1 Ruger rifles ]

You most likely saw the Heym rifles of the late 60's-early 70's (IIRC).  Heym bought Ruger barreled actions and stocked them with European hogs-back style wood.

They can be found in older GUN DIGEST issues.

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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2009, 08:21:24 AM »
The italian brand "Sabatti" was mentioned earlier in the thread.  To put it politely: there are better ways to spend $1500 than to buy a Sabatti for them. More frankly and perhaps not quite polite: it is nothing but expensive junk. I have had a Sabatti shotgun myself, and they have bad reputation for becoming loose in the breech to soon.

Brno is a far better gun to the same or less expensive price.

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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2009, 08:40:10 AM »
I have the latest CZ printed catalog and it has the stalking rifle in 30-06 only and I forget the price but list was 3K pluse if I remember right.
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2009, 10:44:31 PM »
I think I saw it online at gunbroker for about $1400

I'm going to look for one here in Germany to put my hands on for a look see.  I have a Steyr for sale.  Maybe it would finance a BRNO effect in a nice 6.5 or so with a rim on it...
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2009, 04:30:16 AM »
I've looked at the Merkel stalking rifles a few times. They sure are pretty rifles. The ones I saw were priced at about $4000.00 +or-. I really like the euro stocks with the hog-back contour. I had a CZ 223 with that style stock. Felt real good to me.

I supose I could afford a Merkel if I would settle for only one rifle. If I sold them all and went to a one rifle battery it would work. The only problem is when it comes time to turn loose of all that cash.

I believe the break-open rifles are easier to operate than a faling-block type single shot.

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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 08:13:42 AM »
The BRNO Effect IS pretty nice.   :o



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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2009, 05:37:22 PM »
Quote from: Brazos_Jack on February 04, 2009, 01:22:47 AM
I suppose the Czech's aren't up to the requisit tolerances. But again, this is only rumor.
Brazos Jack

Hard to believe that's an issue.  Over the years the Czech armories have made some of the best guns out there. 
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2009, 06:17:25 AM »
baikal    now available  not through  remimington  no

i  will  look it up  if interested and give a contact
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2009, 05:00:33 PM »
Brazos_Jack
$1000.00 does not buy much when it comes to European single shot stalking rifles. The Brno is perhaps the cheapest at about $1400US? The stock has too much drop for scope mounting, and for old eyes open sights are not much good. My self I could not use a rifle without a scope and a 6lbs rifle in 30-06 would not be my cup of tea.

The rest of the continental offerings are very expensive, Merkel, Blaser, Krieghoff, Ferlach and a few others start at $4000US.

The Ruger #1 or #3 are hard to beat in the light sporter 1-A or the #1 International 1-RSI, and as far as looks are concerned they look very good and shoot even better.  I can't see anything objectional about the stocks on a #1. I have several #1's and a #3 and all shoot less than a minute.

So my advise is to get a Ruger #1 or a #3 and get in under $1000. #3's are not quite as easy to find in a desireable caliber.
There is one other advantage of the Rugeres they can easy be rebored and rechambered. This last winter I had a used 243 #1 rebored to 6.5x284. This rifle turned out to be an incredable accurate shooter.

So if you can find a 244 or a 6mm Rem you are all set to have a 6.5x57 for and extra $300 rebored, or less in Canada. I now have three rebored ( cut rifling) rifles and all are tack drivers, two are H&R Handi's. I revamped another used #1 in 243, I installed a 7x57 take off barrel I bought from Numrich for a reasomable price, it too shoots great.
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2009, 05:09:48 PM »
Saw and handled the BRNO Effect at the NRA convention. Seemed realy nice and the full blown retail was $1500.00. Should be able to get it for less at real world prices.Got to handle the Merkel as well,but I would have to be in the catagory of lottery winner for that one
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2009, 07:29:46 PM »
Brazos Jack.
Here are a couple of stalking rifles I build, had the barrels rebored
from 223Rem. These rifles are light and short even with 24" octagon barrrels and scopes 7.5lbs. One is a 257 Roberts the other a 6x47 both will take deer I even toke a moose with the 257.

They are made from H&R Ultras. The wood is reshaped from the origional and recheckered. They are not cheap but not as expensive as a Brno.
The rebored barrels are match quality.

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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2009, 06:03:05 PM »
Hello Fred..
Did Ron Smith do the reboring for you?... If so did he also do the chambering?
Thanks,
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2009, 06:35:05 PM »
Nrut.
Yes Ron Smith did the reboring and rechambering, I did all the rest of the work including the milling of the octigon barrels. My friend Eddy did the checkering.
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2009, 04:22:51 AM »
How about the Browning low wall in .260 Remington? It is an exposed hammer but is very slim, light and graceful. It is a 6.5mm and though a rimless case and not of European origin, it can be loaded to match any European 6.5 you like. If you can find one it should be under $1,000.
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2009, 09:05:05 AM »
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Re: Affordable European Style Stalking Rifle?
« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2009, 01:12:30 PM »
Here is my stalking rifle, an old Savage M-219 in 30/30 or 7.62x51mm if you prefer. I love it, slim light and smooth handling with enough power for anything I hunt within 200 yards. I retained the vintage Weaver 4x J-4 scope because it is still bright and clear and just seems to belong there. I've found the 26" barrel does noticeably improve the ballistics and is still shorter overall than a bolt action with 22" barrel and just a tad longer than a '94 Winchester 20" carbine. It's really a shame they are no longer being made.
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