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 :o It seems that with the new move in Congress to inject more cash into their runaway spending spree, that they intend to TAX YOUR MEDICAL BENEFITS. 
 i.e. Your medical cannot be taken out of your gross pay BEFORE the rest of the taxes. Your gross pay MUST BE TAXED BEFORE MEDICAL BENEFITS ARE TAKEN OUT. Now that's a lot of money. In my case, more than $700.00 per month, and I and my wife are in our 60's.

HOWEVER! Those wonderful unions that gave us the car, and so many other things that a non-union member would never have been able to accomplish, along with other unions have RAISED HELL, and so Congress is working on a deal, that WILL TAX "NON-UNION" WORKERS MEDICAL INSURANCE BENEFITS, BUT "WILL NOT TAX UNION WORKERS" MEDICAL INSURANCE BENEFITS.

I for one am fed up with D.C. and UNIONS! The unions OWN D.C., and we are supporting both the unions and D.C.'s FAILURES!
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 04:39:29 AM »
It appears that the Kenyan health care plans are in the throw crap at the wall and see if anything sticks, phase.
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 04:42:25 AM »
Well DEE, in the old USSR, the party members took care of thier own, it looks like the same thing here.

I have a feeling there will be many law suits if this goes through.
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 05:25:53 AM »
It appears that the Kenyan health care plans are in the throw crap at the wall and see if anything sticks, phase.

Actually what it looks like to me magooch, is that the unions are running far more in Washington than anyone ever dreamed. They get billions in bailouts with the unions giving almost no concessions, the unions get a percentage of the car companies, and now, they get preferential treatment over EVERYONE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES, when it comes to medical care payment.

It is time for a change in business as usual in D.C. . A very drastic change. The two parties have abandoned us all. The two parties need to be abandoned. One way, or the other.
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 06:20:41 AM »
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It is time for a change in business as usual in D.C. . A very drastic change. The two parties have abandoned us all. The two parties need to be abandoned. One way, or the other.

+1

It comes as no surprise that union health care plans will not be taxed.  After all, it it the Democrats turn to run things in DC for a term or two and they are in the pockets of the unions and their members.   BTW:  The first guy I ever heard to say he wanted to tax employer provided health care plans was that lesser of two evils; none other than Juan McAmnesty. 

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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 11:34:01 AM »
That's right, can't be Obama, wow you must have voted for him.
What McCain wanted to do if that is true at all does not matter, only those who are making this happen & if there are 50 million Union members or 1 million members, still just as evil. TM, I am surprised though that you didn't say Bush did it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 03:22:28 PM »
That's right, can't be Obama, wow you must have voted for him.
What McCain wanted to do if that is true at all does not matter, only those who are making this happen & if there are 50 million Union members or 1 million members, still just as evil. TM, I am surprised though that you didn't say Bush did it.
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Try to get a grip NS. What I'm saying is the tax code may be changing back to the way it once was for a long time which is taxing your income without 'your' medical contribution deduction. Yes, your short time memory may be lacking, but mine isn't. It was McCain et al that proposed taxing all the employer's medical benefits as regular income. Yeah, since you brought up Bush he was the worst president ever elected, drove the economy under, most corrupt, shredded the Constitution, and dishonest and has more to answer for then all the past presidents put together. Maybe you remember it was on Bush's watch that 911 happened, (nobody got fired for that one)...he should be exiled to someplace like Paraquay or Texas, or all of them prosecuted.

..TM7

Changing the tax code back was the point of the post to begin with, didn't need re-explaining.

Oh, I have a grip. And being critical of McCain is very acceptable to me, I think he is a sorry person & Bush as well. You did not read what I said, I didn't say that McCain didn't propose it, but we see what admin. is going to make these things happen.
What I find as humorus is how you feel that you need to tell all the good folk out there whenever any issue comes up this present admin. is not responsible for anything, but it's that last bunch, or at least they were thinking it "would'a shoulda, coulda stuff"   ::). It is great fun to watch & the way that you defend Obama makes me feel that yes, you voted for him. Of course that is your right if you are a citizen.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2009, 03:37:36 PM »
. It was McCain et al that proposed taxing all the employer's medical benefits as regular income.
..TM7
I could go on about this  ::) but JUST do a Little read on what you said right there

 Lets Say I propose we shoot someone ** Now you TM go out and take this person out
Yep !!! thats it I'm getting the Death Penilty cause I mentioned it
Nope I Proposed it  Opps Wait I proposeed it YOU DID IT Opps Now WHAT you or I

OK I'm Done

So now McCain Prossed a tax on ALL "the employer's medical benefits as regular income"

DID HE EXCLUDE the Union
DID HE ??
 I truly feel you have the same mind set of the Majorty in the U.S.
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 02:01:19 AM »
OK, maybe the subject matter was clear to everyone but you, I accept that possibility.  "beloved GOP", not even a supporter of that party , actually a Constitution Party member, as I have mentioned sev. times recently. My solid non-support of Bush & McCain is all over this forum, no need for the false accusations just because you are upset.
I never said you supported Obama lock, stock & barrel, but did say it appears you voted for him. And I also said you have a right to do that, of course a free country, just like I am free to make a mere observation.

Like I said, I merely find it humorus, the way you are on the defensive speaks volumes, cheers.  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 02:17:15 AM »
OK, you too Sir.
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2009, 02:33:49 AM »
well  can't  you  see  the current system  is  not  working

if  not  obana  will screw  it  up  untill there  is no dpught  he  needs  to  fix  it

every  thing he touches  seems to be an attempt to destroy  it

SO HE CAN REBUILD IT    MORE IN LINE WITH COMMUNISM

what about  his promis to  ONLY   soak the richest 5%

my health care is one of my biggest deductions
now  my accoundant will  have to work harder
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2009, 03:06:03 AM »
In no way do I defend any of what the Kenyan and his administration are doing, but I still say that a lot of trial balloons are floating around and the reporting on them is very spotty.  There might be a hint of truth in what is being reported, but the details are not in the headlines.

I think there's a long way to go before any serious health care plan actually gets rolled out.  I think even some Dumbycrats have second thoughts about rushing anything through.  And in any case, there just might not be enough money left to do anything about health care anyway.
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2009, 08:26:25 AM »
TM7 and NOMOSENDERO, in a vague way it seems you agree neither side is the answer. That seems to be a majority openion. How do we get "NONE OF THE ABOVE" put on the ballot and it require a new slate of candidates? The person running on this platform alone might win.
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2009, 08:38:45 AM »
guess they want everyone to join a union ? hum
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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2009, 03:34:27 AM »
guess they want everyone to join a union ? hum



yes  you  are right

they  want to destroy  the individual       plain and simple....

they don't want  you to defend yourself

you don't need a gun ... you need a policeman
you don't need  a good work ethic  and ambition or a small business  ...you  need a union
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2009, 07:46:29 AM »
finish it , you don't need a small business you need a co.
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Re: TAXING YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE! HO! HO! BUT NOT THE UNIONS MEDICAL!
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2009, 03:28:26 AM »
In my union, I don't pay for my health insurance. The company pays for family coverage. So if they taxed my insurance, they would actually be taxing my employer and not me.

Now what do you think that kind of raise in taxes would do to companies?

I personally don't think they should tax anyones health insurance, so don't flame me on that.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2009, 03:56:30 AM »
There should be no company tax only personal tax. All company taxes are passed on to the consumer any way .
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