Author Topic: Ammo Help (Read 545 times)

lwisconsin · « **on:** September 21, 2003, 02:45:00 PM »

I've got a new Savage 111 Leftie in 270 caliber. It has a Leupold VX-1 3-9x40 scope. Shooting it 15 times today in 3 shot groups, I put 2 of the three very close together and one of the three always ended up way high. A couple even missed the target. Same story every time, two right there and one of the three way off. I'm kind of new at this, having always been a 12 ga. slug hunter, so I'm asking for some help. Sound like ammo. is the issue? I alternated between Remington Express Core-Lokt and Winchester Super X Power Point, both 130 grain. I stated with the lowest cost ammo. I need to move up to a better grade or maybe try Federal? I hadn't tried it because it was not available in the couple of places I bought these rounds at. Any advice would be appreciated.

jdt48653 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 21, 2003, 03:12:36 PM »

make sure that you clean after each round,i would try different brands and bullit weights! you may be flinching on that last round!give yourself a little more time between rounds,your barrel may be getting to hot if you are firing fast.good luck!

jhm · « **Reply #2 on:** September 21, 2003, 03:14:20 PM »

Iwisconsin : I have a ruger 270 that will do the same thing if I try to get 3 shots off in too quick a time, mine heats up could it be that you have the same problem, are you allowing enough time between shots so as not to heat it up,

JIM

jdt48653 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 21, 2003, 03:18:30 PM »

re- low cost ammo may not be the way to go,personley i have found that
budget ammo from rem&win is usually a mistake! try prem federal,or hornady,or prem win!

lwisconsin · « **Reply #4 on:** September 21, 2003, 03:24:33 PM »

Thanks, both replies make a lot of sense. It would make me feel a lot better if I knew that was the problem. I did fire the three fairly close together. next time, I need to check if it is the third round is the culprit. I don't belive I flinched. Should I also try 150 gr.? Any suggestions on my next couple boxes of ammo? I'll be using this on Wisconsin whitetails and have heard 130 gr. is an excellent choice.

tominboise · « **Reply #5 on:** September 21, 2003, 03:28:48 PM »

Make sure the stock and scope screws are all tight. Breaking in a new rifle can get some loose, sometimes.

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #6 on:** September 21, 2003, 04:09:05 PM »

Try Hornady 140 grainers and replacing the Savage's sucky trigger.

Sean · « **Reply #7 on:** September 21, 2003, 04:45:33 PM »

Does this model have the synthetic bend a stock? If so then more than likely that is your problem. Savage Synthetics are real flimsy in the foreend.
There are a couple of solutions 1) Replace the stock or 2) Mix up some Acra-Glas and pour it into the foreend. On these synthetics you will notice that the foreend is hollow with ribs running acrossed for "strength". All you need to do is buy a 'Glas kit from a local gunstore or Brownells, Midway etc. and pour some in. About 1/4" deep should do it though it will add weight.
Your trigger can be adjusted very easily by a gunsmith to give a very nice 3 lb pull although most with no experience with the trigger don't believe it can be done. I took a 112 down under 2 lbs and left it that way until I got ready to sell it, but 3 lbs is doable and safe.
I don't really think you need to go to "Premium" ( read high-dollar) ammo. Some of the most accurate Factory Ammo I have fired in a number of rifles has been from Remington. The Core-Lokt bullets are usually a very accurate bullet. I would bet that if you got the foreend stiffened up and your trigger adjusted your flyers will go away as long as you slow down a little and don't over heat the barrel. Think one minute between shots and ten minutes between groups anyway. Sean

matt d · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2003, 01:37:58 PM »

IWisconsin,
I think you should stick with one or the other instead of using different kinds of ammo. I would choose Remington if you don't reload, there bullet performance is better eventhough both are good. About you groups, don't clean after every shot, while this is good when breaking barrels in, it is not when trying to shoot tight groups... ever hear of a fouling shot. After cleaning your rifle shoot it once before taking it out in the field or tring to shoot good groups. The bullet grain thing is up to you of course, I would look at a ballistics chart of whatever kind of ammo you are shooting and decide for yourself. I believe the 130 gr. is the most effecient for me. Good luck! I hope I was some help.