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Offline Kmrere42

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Powder scale drift issue
« on: July 16, 2009, 01:22:39 PM »
Hi,


Want to ask all those who have purchased electronic scales for reloading duties.

I have several scales including an RCBS Rangemaster 750.  All of them drift after a few minutes, the RCBS is the least of them but it still drifts.  Anyone found a scale that doesn't for under $100.



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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2009, 01:38:53 PM »
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2009, 01:42:29 PM »
Yep, just about any beam scale.    

I bought an electronic scale some years ago and couldn't get it resold fast enough.   Been reloading to many decades I guess, I didn't like it at all.  Went back to my RCBS 10-10 and never looked back.  

 

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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2009, 03:52:57 PM »
Fresh batteries really help.  I use a $50 scale from oldwillknot that I keep a calibration weight next to.  If I have it set up properly on a solid bench and away from EM sources, it is dead on always.

However, you could just buy a good beam scale, take your measurements using the GREAT Harrell measure, and I can say with conviction that with ball and short cut extruded powder, you'll rarely have to weigh anymore.

(yes, I know that many of us weigh every charge, but I've shot bench for years, and every now and then, I'll break out the old RCBS to compare with the Harrell clicks that I recorded in my range book, just for the fun of it.  Buttabing, Buttaboom, the Harrell is right on the money every time with varget, 332, 748, 380, you name it.  And I mean within .1 usually, and always within .2)
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2009, 04:09:17 PM »
I try and power mine up an hour or so before I start loading, and I never use batteries.

While I personally haven't noticed a drift issue, I've read post by many who have noticed it, and the fix is usually to let the scale warm up for awhile before using it.
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2009, 07:06:56 PM »
I have the Lyman and the only time it gave me a problem was after i installed a florescent light above the bench , changed that real quick, it loads very accurate ammo so i don't think drift is a problem with it.
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 09:53:36 AM »
  i have the lyman  1200 dps 3.  i have sent it back to the company already once.
they said nothing was wrong with it. when you put the grains in and press  enter/pause it comes up with the right amount say 55grns than the count  but when the weight comes back it regesters 55.1 or sometimes 55.2  this happens about every second or third one.  if it regesters only .1 more i leave it go anything above this i  but the powder back and start the process over plus i will hit recaliber butten.
my groups haven't changed i still get really good groups. its just takes more time to reload.  has anybody had this peoblem with this model
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 11:52:09 AM »
My DPS 3 does that too with stick powders, I just set it for .1gr less and trickle if needed, more often than not it comes out just right. The reducer bushing is supposed to eliminate this problem, but it also dispenses slower, so I don't use it.  :D

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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 01:17:10 AM »
Sure cant see what a .1 of a grain of powder is going to hurt in a 55 grain load.
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2009, 01:32:06 PM »
Quote from: skarke on July 16, 2009, 03:52:57 PM
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However, you could just buy a good beam scale, take your measurements using the GREAT Harrell measure, and I can say with conviction that with ball and short cut extruded powder, you'll rarely have to weigh anymore.
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Good point.   I've had my Harrell's for several years now.   Have all my powders catalogued in a notebook what each powder will drop to the click with the Harrell's within the load ranges I use the powder for.   My load labels even have click values on them for the Harrell's that I refer to more than the grains.   So mostly I only use the beam scale to verify new powder/load combos since I got it.   
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2009, 01:51:00 PM »
Ladobe,

Ditto, it makes life on the reloaders bench a piece of cake.  I might buy another harrell just to keep.  I'm thinking that when the old bird hangs up the machinist apron, his measures will skyrocket in value.
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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2009, 02:56:37 PM »
Quote from: Ladobe on July 16, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
Yep, just about any beam scale.    

I bought an electronic scale some years ago and couldn't get it resold fast enough.   Been reloading to many decades I guess, I didn't like it at all.  Went back to my RCBS 10-10 and never looked back.  



Ladobe,

I couldn't have said it better myself I have a RCBS electronic scale and it drifts after 8 or 9 charges. I use my 10/10 for all reloading now.

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Re: Powder scale drift issue
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2009, 05:47:12 PM »
wow my lyman 1200     it is my best friend    i check it every 100 rds  but   its always dead on
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