New Savage Accu-Stock

[Zachary]

Have any of you seen the new Savage Accu-Stock?  I have to say, this is a design that I have been thinking about for many years now, and it's nice to see that Savage has put this concept into production.  I am not sure if also glass bedding is possible.  I don't see why not.  Can't hurt, right?

I am a huge fan of glass bedding because I KNOW that it produces better accuracy...at least in my guns.  I wonder if the same thing happens with the accu-stock.  I read an article about it, but the results, in my opinion, were really not all that conclusive.

What are your thoughts?

Zachary

[nomosendero]

I think it is a great concept. The way it pulls like a wedge & tighten in more than 1 direction may negate the adv. of glass bedding.

[mjbgalt]

i think the idea of bedding is to exactly fit THAT action into THAT stock. generic factory bedding of random to random doesnt always work well.

check out kimber....they glass bed to a metal form the same shape as the barreled action. some of them shoot great and some suck.

seems like a way to get a factory rifle to shoot better but not a truly custom fit and accuracy.

-Matt

[dscp]

BUT . . . no one showed that it adversely affected accuracy ?
dscp

[trotterlg]

I think that any time you pull an action into a stock it creates stresses on the action that will affect accuracy.  In a properly pillar and glass bedded action, the action screws will go from finger tight to fully tight in about a quarter turn.  Neither the action or stock is flexed in any way, that is what makes it consistant.  Each action has a slightly different shape and size, that is why it is so hard to get a properly fit rifle without custom bedding.  The stiffness of the plastic they use in the stock probably has a lot more to do with how it shoots than how the action fits.  Larry

[nomosendero]

Zachary, I am a big fan of glass bedding as well, the last one I had done in fact was a Sendero with the alum. bedding block, but even with those stocks a skim bed will make a better mate with the action. However, this does not mean that it would help with this stock. I would like to keep an open mind, I will be checking Savage Shooters from time to time because I have no doubt that some will give bedding a try on these as well. Then again, maybe you could be the forrunner on this! 

[Zachary]

Hey, I have a couple of Sendero SFs myself! One is in .308 and the other is .300 Win Mag.  (Actually, in .308, Remington called it Varmint Synthetic Stainless Fluted - VSSF).  Yes, I agree with what you are saying and, in fact, I have one (or maybe both) glass bedded.  I have several other rifles that are also glass bedded (aftermarket) as well as my Kimber M8400 in .300WSM which came glass bedded at the factory.

I'm not necessarily saying that I know that the Savage Accu-stock 100% works because I don't have any on-hands experience with it, but I like the concept. Even then, though, I still would like the Accu-stock to be glass bedded.

Zachary

[nomosendero]

Zachary, like I said before the stock is a bit complicated for bedding & could do more harm than good in this particular case. These pictures bear this out.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=230783

[nomosendero]

The nice thing is if it works as it should then no further work would be needed, but that's hard on someone who likes to tinker. 

[84Jim]

Part of the way the accustock works is the wedge, which essentially clamps the stock to the recoil lug.  Glass bedding is gonna glue the wedge in place and if its tight prevent you from ever removing the stock.  Glass bedding without the wedge defeats much of the advantage of the accustock.

I'd shoot it first as designed before considering bedding.  I think you're going to find it shoots just fine right out of the box.  I just got a SP-10 precision carbine.  Only been to the range once, but got a 7/16" five shot group, with nothing over .75".  Tweaking some loads and trying some different bullets is only going to make it better.

[hunt-m-up]

At least it shows they are listening to discussion about crappy tupperware stocks and trying to make an improvement while still wanting to maintain a price point. May not rival a full-scale bedding job, but I'm surprised they made the effort to do it.

[saltydog]

Savages have always shot pretty well for me -even with the somewhat crappy synthetic stocks - not really different than other brands cheap stocks. Sometimes a bit of dremel is needed. Price point for Savage is right in there with Howas and Vanguards which also shoot well considering how little we are paying for them at $400. On the other hand I have AR's with floated barrels that will outshoot most bolt actions. 

[PawPaw]

I'm a fan of Savage rifles and have been for several years.  We own five of them in the family and they're all shooters.  It's been our experience that even bone-stock Savages shoot well and MOA accuracy is more a function of the shooter and the ammo than the rifle.

I applaud the Accu-stock although I've never shot one.  Savage is one of the innovators and they consistently produce rifles that people want to shoot.

Now, if they'd make a small-action bolt with a common magazine.  I'm thinking a .308 that would take M14 magazines.  And a .223 that would take AR mags.  There's no reason to make a magazine for every different rifle style.  Common magazines work well, they're already standardized and they're easily available.  Actually, a small-action rifle using M14 mags could be chambered in any one of several cartridges that use the .308 parent case. 

How about a 7.62 X 39 bolt that would take AK magazines?  Lots of folks might be interested in a rifle like that.

Savage!  Y'all listening?