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Full Text U.S. Navy Gunnery Book 1864
« on: July 20, 2009, 09:09:15 PM »
Gunnery catechism, as applied to the service of naval ordnance. Adapted to the latest official regulations, and approved by the Bureau of ordnance, Navy department (1864)

Author: Brandt, John D
Subject: Gunnery; Ordnance, Naval
Publisher: New York, D. Van Nostrand
Possible copyright status: NOT_IN_COPYRIGHT
Language: English
Call number: ucb_banc:GLAD-33793818
Digitizing sponsor: MSN
Book contributor: University of California Libraries
Collection: americana; cdl

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Gunnery Catechism
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Re: Full Text U.S. Navy Gunnery Book 1864
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 12:48:41 PM »
Thanks Boom J,
    The 1866 ordnance instructions mirror those of 1864 very closely. I'm glad you posted the link. I've forwarded it to the President of the Navy/Marine Living History Association.

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Re: Full Text U.S. Navy Gunnery Book 1864
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 12:39:25 AM »
George,

 Yes, I't seems like a significant part of the content of this "Catechism" made its way into the 1866 volume.
 
One thing I haven't read before, and which doesn't make sense to me, is in the chapter on black powder pp. 155-156. Everything I've read about Thomas Jackson Rodman's "Mammoth Powder" has stated that it was a great success, and it was used in large bore ordnance with good results. Rodman's powder concept was adapted by Britain, and used in their large Armstrong guns, as well as in European and Russian big guns all the way up to the time that smokeless powders were developed. The XV-inch guns being referred to, have to be Dahlgrens, and I don't see why Rodman's mammoth powder wouldn't work well in them.

{T.J. Rodman conducted experiments which showed that using black powder compressed into hexagonal shaped cakes with holes bored lengthwise into them caused the grains to burn outside as well as in, thus resulting in a longer and more consistent burn time in the bore, and this made for a safer, more consistent pressure build up in the bore, which remained more constant from the beginning of the burn up until the exit of the projectile from the barrel.}


Q. — What description of powder has been de-
signed for the XV-in. guns ?

A. — Powder with grains nearly the size of a cubic
inch.



156 GUNNERY CATECHISM.

Q. — For what reason ?

A. — It was supposed that such would give as
much or more velocity to the ball without straining
the gun as the ordinary cannon powder.

Q. — Has experiment proved this to be coreect ?

A, — No. The velocity is much less, and it is
certain that all the grains of the large size are
not burned. The regulation now is to use the or-
dinary cannon powder with these guns.


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Re: Full Text U.S. Navy Gunnery Book 1864
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 04:55:26 AM »
Not sure why they didn't. Thought it might have been meant to simplify powder storage but most of the XV's were on the later monitors and even those that had a XI inch in battery with the XV could have used the "mammoth" powder.

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Re: Full Text U.S. Navy Gunnery Book 1864
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 11:11:09 AM »
... I don't see why Rodman's mammoth powder wouldn't work well in them.

Rodman was Army and the Navy's biggest enemy was the Army (budget struggles.)  It is still that way, except that now there is the Air Force to contend with also.
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Re: Full Text U.S. Navy Gunnery Book 1864
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 12:31:23 PM »
LMAO!!! That was my 1st thought ;)