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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #90 on: August 03, 2009, 04:11:36 AM »
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   I tend to agree with WD on this.  Even if you buy and store 10 years of seals, are you also gonna buy and store 10 years of lemon juice?

  If you "pressure" can, you don't have to add the lemmon juice...

  I'll take my chances and keep canning, as the 10 year clock doesn't start untill the SHTF, and who knows when that will happen?  I may be 80 by then??  Anyway, until then, i'll keep on eatin good, and keeping a few lids around.

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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #91 on: August 03, 2009, 05:59:28 AM »
Also, like he said, with pressure canning, you don't need lemon juice.  Just extra lids with good seals.  If you can remove the lids carefully, you can reuse them, especially if using the water bath method.  Jellys and jams don't have to be pressure canned, just water bathed (boiling water for 20-30 minutes) like the tomatoes.  My grandmother used to put up fig and pear preserves.  Like someone said, you may want to pressure can since a lot of tomatoes today doesn't have all the acid like older versions did.  Therein a good supply of non-hybrid seeds can keep you going for years.  Morman's put up a good supply of canned dry foods.  Spend a little each month to put up stuff.  Home canned food will last about 2 years without loosing the vitamins.  Freezing about 1 year unless you vacuum seal.  Dried foods may last almost indefinately, but do not have all the vitamins you need, amino acids yes, but vitamins no. 

Therefore a good year round gardening plan is essential for long term survival.  Like I said, down south you can garden year round. 

Winter:  Root crops like turnips, rutabegas, radishes, carrots as well as collards and spinish.
Spring and Fall:  Potatoes, leaf lettuce, corn, English peas, summer crops if covered during cold snaps below freezing.
Summer: Okra, Tomatoes, peas, beans, strawberries, eggplant, peppers, cucumbers, squashes, mellons. 

Wheat storage is different, flour doesn't keep as well as whole grains.  You can buy and store the grain wheat, as well as rice.  I have bought 50 lb. bags of rice at Sam's, put it in the 5 gallon buckets like pickles and such come in that have a seal at the top.  I am using rice I bought over 6 years ago.  I got free buckets that cake icing came in from the bakery at the local grocery store.  Just wash and clean them out, and you are good to go for grains like wheat, rye, and rice, and you can also store your dried peas and butterbeans in them.  Will keep for years. 

Talking about gardening gets me hungry. 

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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #92 on: August 03, 2009, 05:13:02 PM »
See, now you guys got me thinking again. :) I wonder if you can get vitamin c in red wine? It would sure beat taking those stinkin vitamin pills.

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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #93 on: August 03, 2009, 05:26:55 PM »
I do believe there may be and everyone should have a glass or two anyway it promotes a healthy cardiovascular system................if it dont it should by golly!
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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #94 on: August 04, 2009, 09:48:55 AM »
Will corn wine work ?
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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #95 on: August 04, 2009, 10:02:32 AM »
You can get your vitamin C from almost any green leafy vegetable plus fruits, preserves, etc.  My grandparents basically fed themselves on 10 acres and had enough trees for firewood for heating and cooking.  They worked in a cotton mill for cash to buy a car, pay for the land and build their house.  They bought the land first, then built a one room house to start with and added 4 more rooms and a bathroom over several years and paid cash for everything.  They never had a credit card or borrowed money.  They used an outhouse until the early 60's when they got indoor plumbing.  Used firewood until they piped their house in the 60's for natural gas space heaters and a stove.  They had electricity in the 50's but only had lights, a radio, a small tv, a freezer and refrigerator in from what I can remember as a pre-schooler.  They grew a garden and had chickens.  Had plenty of eggs and chicken to eat.  They had apple, pear, plumb, peach, pecan, and walnut trees.  They also grew all kinds of veggies including peanuts and watermellons.  My grandmother put up so many things, she gave the kids jars of stuff.  They had 4 kids and 10 grandkids including me.  I was the closest to their home and spent summers with them.  My grandmother also made blackberry jam and jelly as well as muskedine jelly and wine.  She had shelves and shelves of stuff and a large chest freezer full of stuff.  I don't know how she put up canned goods before she got a gas stove, but they did have a cast iron stove they cooked and used for heating in winter.  Farming is the only way to survive long term in some type of comfort, unless you are nomadic like the native Indians of the plains. 

I also remember her trading some of her canned fruits and jellies for milk and made butter from the milk obtained from someone who had a cow. 

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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #96 on: August 05, 2009, 11:35:10 AM »
Muskadine wine and jelly... mmmmmmmmmmm..... brings back a memory or two and I ain't that old!


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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #97 on: August 05, 2009, 11:37:04 AM »
NGH you must have found it again.
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Re: Been doing some thinking...
« Reply #98 on: August 06, 2009, 01:39:08 AM »
Yup...


Thanks dude,

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