I shot a hog the other day with my fireforming loads, 25 grns. of H322 under a 120 grn. Sierra pro hunter. I wanted to see if it would expand so I shot her through the shoulders, left a very nice exit but I did not recover the bullet. She went straight down, came back to her feet only to go 15 yards. I think this bullet would be great if you like to shoot for the shoulder, but I prefer behind the shoulder so as not to mess up very much meat. I plan on loading Nosler BTs in 120 grn., they should work great, just a little too high for fire-forming. I have no idea about velocity, but with a 4X scope, they are shooting less than 1/2" center to center at approximately 55 yards.