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Offline Axehandle

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Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« on: August 17, 2009, 01:51:01 PM »
David Clements Custom 44 Special...... Details below:

Ruger NM .357 Flattop converted to .44 Special. If you want the ultimate .44 Special, this is it.
Specs:
Stainless 6 shot oversize cyl. with recessed caseheads, unfluted
5 1/2" stainless Express barrel with barrel band front sight. Partridge style blade and gold bead blade included. Blades attach with small screw from side of sight base
Action job with 3# trigger, freewheeled cyl.
#5 base pin with lock screw
Cresent head ejector rod
Bisley gripframe, hammer, and trigger with gripframe converted to #5 configuration
Custom made antique micarta grips
Factory flattop rear sight with notch opened to .125" W
Action has been tightened and blocked for tight lockup
#5 logo engraved on topstrap
Receiver is remarked Ruger Blackhawk, caliber is engraved on side of barrel next to receiver
Matte hardchrome finish on all parts except sights and springs






Offline Lloyd Smale

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 01:19:56 AM »
make mine a 5 shot 44 mag
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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 04:51:05 AM »
I don't know about that Lloyd...  My 5 shot guns have all gone to the larger frame are 45 and up.   Look at that all that steel in the 6 shot cylinder...  For a sho nuf smokin reloader the 44 Special case should just leave more room for more bullet.... I plan to take the slow and easy route.   I primed 500 new Starline 44 Special cases last night...  Planning to drop a few grains of Unigue and seat some some 250K SWCs tonight.... I'll wear the new off this sucker in no time...

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 01:21:26 AM »
I just have an itch for a lightweight 44 mag 5 shot on a small framed ruger. I know there would be some limitations on bullet seating dept but it sure would make for a light compact powerful holster gun. Being on a fixed income now i doubt if any customs are in my future though, at least for a while.
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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2009, 06:36:39 PM »
Axehandle, I love it! You left out one important figure - the price! (Don't worry, I'm sitting down!)
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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2009, 02:19:28 AM »
That is a beautiful handgun and one you can rightfully take pride in.  Myself, I've always lusted after an Andy Horvath round butt light weight conversion with a 3 1/2" barrel.  44 Man
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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 07:29:33 AM »
Price?   Now isn't like asking the wife how much she weighs?..... ::)   Let's just say that it was priced like any top line Clements or Bowen....  NOT CHEAP!

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 12:39:30 PM »
What a beautiful gun!!!!  Thanks for sharing!!!!

LLoyd...now that's an idea....a small frame, 5 shot 44mag.....anyone make one and what model ruger would constitute a small frame????
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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 01:31:41 PM »
Axe;
I DO admire your beautiful revolver. I like just about every detail that is shown (including but not limited to the interchangeable front sight, the Belt Mountain Pin, the barrel band that stops the ejector rod housing from "ejecting", the grips, just about everything). However, I am NOT ready to put up the money for that bad baby and will just have to satisfy myself with the 5˝" .44 Lipsey Special I purchased a couple of months ago. However, I am LIKIN' the Lipsey Special, I am, I am...

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 05:14:51 AM »
My obvious plan has been to embrace the term "AND"   That said I need to make the next step with my own Lipsey's 44.... Make it my own personal #5.  FWIW the local Ruger emporium has received a pair of polished stainless Bisley Vaquero 357s that look like a fine starting platforms for a personal "#5"

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 09:43:41 AM »
Axe;
I DO admire your beautiful revolver. I like just about every detail that is shown (including but not limited to the interchangeable front sight, the Belt Mountain Pin, the barrel band that stops the ejector rod housing from "ejecting", the grips, just about everything). However, I am NOT ready to put up the money for that bad baby and will just have to satisfy myself with the 5½" .44 Lipsey Special I purchased a couple of months ago. However, I am LIKIN' the Lipsey

Dale, is that Lipsey a 5 or 6 shot?

Axe, that is sure a wonderful looking iron!  I've been getin a real itch for a nice, strong and accurate .44 special...I've never had one, but from what I've read about the caliber, it should do everything that I ever wanted a .44 mag to do, but in a smaller, lighter package.
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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2009, 11:13:58 AM »
  How does the frame size on this revolver compare to the origional 44mag. Blackhawks?

  When i wanted what i thought was the "ultimate" 44 spl., i picked the S&W "K" frame, and it's been a great revolver...

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2009, 01:24:12 PM »
  How does the frame size on this revolver compare to the origional 44mag. Blackhawks?

That's another question I have.  I went to the Ruger website to compare the specs of the new .44 spl to the other existing (large frame) single action revolvers.

According to the Ruger website, they are the same weight.  However I think that the weight is just an automatic entry without adjusting for actual varainces..for example the 6 1/2" bbl is the same weight as the 4 5/8".

I was under the impression that the .44 spl conversion was built upon a smaller size frame than the current blackhawks/superblackhawk.

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 06:44:22 AM »
Cayoot;
The Ruger .44 Lipsey Special is a six shot on the old .357 size frame (similar to the New Vaquero frames). Think Colt Single Action Army frame size with modern steels and modern lock work. One very nice innovation in these new frames is that the new pawl design that allows for MUCH easier loading and unloading. If you turn the cylinder a bit too far on the older Rugers your only option was to run the cylinder a full revolution to get back in line. The new one allows you to back up to align. Further, there is a noticeable "click" when you are in the proper position to load or unload. The New Vaqueros, the 50th Anniversaries, and the Lipsey all have this new pawl. It is a neat innovation that was only fifty years "a-coming".

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 11:29:09 AM »
  I'm still confused here, isn't the "origional" blk. hawk 44 mag. (flat top) frame size, the same as the 357 frame size? 

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2009, 03:51:58 PM »
No the original BH 44 Mag cylinder frame and cylinder are the same size as the current 44 Mag..   The 44 Specials are the size of the original 357 which are commonly referred to as mid size...  The weight comparison is flawed because the original guns had alloy frip frames.   The anniversary 357s and the Lipsey's 44 Specials are mid size guns but have steel grip frames.

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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2009, 04:15:26 AM »
The weight comparison is flawed because the original guns had alloy frip frames.   The anniversary 357s and the Lipsey's 44 Specials are mid size guns but have steel grip frames.

That explains alot!!! Thanks!

Now I REALLY want one!
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Re: Clements Ultimate 44 Special
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2009, 11:32:21 AM »
 LOVE that front sight set-up.   
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