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I posted this some time back, but since there seem to be more board members now, and more from UK, I'm trying again.

This model is about 14 in. long, 6 in. wide and high. The smooth bore measures 0.575 inches, if that means anything, which it may not unless this was made to scale. The model weighs something like 15-18 lbs. The barrel appears to be steel or cast iron, the breech arms are probably steel, the breech cap is brass or bronze.

This is obviously an early breech-loading concept. The basic barrel with its highly flared muzzle and tall front sight actually looks like an 18th C. naval gun pattern, more British-looking to me than American. The U.S. breechloading concepts of this kind (moveable breechblock on straps attached to trunnions) I've seen generally generally date from about 1850-1870.

I've looked through all the breechloading cannon patents I could find on Google patents and in the National Archives Navy and Army records, without success. There was only one that resembled this functionally, in that it had a moveable breech on trunnion straps with counterweights to balance the breech, but it was nowhere like this in appearance, and had two counterweights instead of the single one this model has, and they were outside of the carriage, where this counterweight is under the carriage.

Has anyone looked through old UK cannon patents? That's the only reason I can think of that I haven't found this one yet, it isn't a US-originated concept. Well, maybe it is something that was conceived and never patented also, there are many like that.

Almost always, when I find a model showing the quality and detail shown in this one, there's some kind of documentation to be found that will identify it.

Can you help please?









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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 10:58:11 AM »
that one is sure a beauty , I remember it since before .
some day I must borrow that one and make a copy of it , its not my usual inerest model of cannons .
but it has something very special in its appearance .
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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 10:37:46 AM »
I'm having to find out who made this model via a process of elimination, which has turned out to be a very long one.   Until a couple of weeks ago I was only aware of a very limited number of experimental breechloading cannons, or inventions of such things.  Then I discovered new batches of files of these things in the National Archives, and I'm trying to sort through hundreds and hundreds of inventions dating from 1821 through about 1870, that are on record in the files of the Chief of Ordance, US Army, in the Archives.  The majority of them I can eliminate easily since most have either drawings or detailed descriptions with them.  Some of the letters give almost no indication whatsoever of how the cannon  is supposed to work.  Many letters clearly indicate whether at the time of the writing, a model existed or not.  That helps too.  Then again, no one can say that this model is described anywhere in the letters I'm looking through, it could have been a private venture that never came to the attention of the US Army.

I'm still left with at least dozens of letters to sort through without much to go on, in my attempt to identify this model.  One thing that might actually help is my guess that due to the lines of the barrel on this piece, particularly muzzle and front sight, it may have been manufactured in the UK or europe.

There's exactly one maker I can associate with a breechloading model sent to the US from europe, a Mr. J.W. Kustler (exact spelling of the German name not available on my keyboard.)  I can't say definitely that these letters are associated with my model at this point, more information would be needed to do that, something like a period German newspaper article describing this inventor's cannon.  You can see from the letters that his model was sent to the well-known US Army Ordnance Officer Maj. A. Mordecai at the Washington Arsenal, from Europe.

This ID isn't the only possibility I have at the moment but it has the greatest "weight of evidence" behind it.




Other letters in the group:
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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 06:21:11 AM »
Status: Finished looking thru thousands of letters, sketches, some printed items in the National Archives, took about 40 hours there spread over two weeks, not including a similar amount going over photos of the stuff at home.

Bad news: I don't yet have a solid connection between any of the letters and the early breechloading cannon model, but that may change as I eventually read through the many letters I photographed but didn't have time to read while in DC.

Good news: In the process, found many letters describing two other models I have, which weren't on my hot list of research topics because I already knew who made them. I had no idea either model had any connection to the US Army, but they both did. The fact that I knew the inventors' names was the key to catching the associated letters as I shuffled through the the contents of hundreds of file folders, since the files on these two inventors' proposals contained no drawings.

One of the models I knew next to nothing about other than the name of the inventor and where he lived (Alexis Hebert, Malone NY.) I could see it was designed to be essentially a water-cooled machine gun, but never really reflected on the fact that maybe it was the first such weapon. If you look at the photos of the model, you can see how it has a water jacket around the barrel, and would have had rubber hoses going to the water tanks on the carriage. The water cooling system is nearly identical to those used on the machine guns used in WWI.

I thought the handbill or poster (about 12 x 18") on file at the Archives was pretty cool, as I don't have anything like it for any other cannon I have.

The attached slideshow concerns Alexis Hebert's model and has 3 parts:

1. Pix of model
2. Documents found in National Archives, Washington DC
3. Pix of Alexis Hebert items that either came with the model or were in the same auction, which of course I snapped up to go with the model. Note that his patent, dated 1870, is for an improved railroad coupling, not the cannon. If Alexis Hebert ever patented this cannon, I haven't located the patent.

Slideshow:

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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2009, 09:14:36 PM »
A. Hebert's 12 chambered cannon model is incredible in its details, that complex firing mechanism that evidently drops a hammer on a cap placed on a nipple over a chamber is precisely fashioned.

Are these type of inventor's models made to demonstrate their operation by actually firing, or to just show to potential buyers how the mechanism would function in a full scale cannon?
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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2009, 01:50:31 AM »
The models that survive tend to be those that functioned mechanically, at least with the movement of parts.  Patent models were usually too small to fire anything since they had to fit into a 10x10 box.  This model is a bit larger and I can tell it has been fired, so it does shoot somehow.  In one of the letters in the slideshow, and I know it is hard to read unless you get it to near full size, he goes into great detail to explain how he found the smallest possible cap nipple he could fit into the model and find real percussion caps to work with it.  One thing I have to figure out with this one is why the bore is so much smaller than the end of the chambers.  That shouldn't be a huge logic issue since you could easily construct a paper cartridge with smaller bullet sitting in middle of the end of charge, and it should work ok with this type system.

As if the movements you mentioned weren't complex enough, the whole rotating drum moves forward and backward to wedge into the rear of the barrel each time it rotates one chamber, just like the old Nagant 7.62mm M1895? Russian revolvers you can still buy for about $70. if you have FFL.

When I run out of other things at the top of my list in about a year, I'll load that gun up and make a video of it firing 12 rounds.  Hope it takes the small pistol-type percussion caps I have.

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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2009, 02:15:36 AM »
"Patent models were usually too small to fire anything since they had to fit into a 10x10 box."

 Ahhh.... So they had USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate boxes back then too!

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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2009, 03:04:34 AM »
Another model on which I found a small stack of correspondence was the one by Capt. C.F. Brown of Warren R.I., and he certainly constructed that model to fire.  I think I've shown pix of it here before, crazy looking getup about 3 feet long.  He made a patent model which is now in a museum in NY, then he made this firing model I have.  The idea of the big third wheel was to provide power to actuate a reciprocating breech "piston" I'll call it.  The troops would run alongside the moving cannon tossing fixed rounds into the tray behind the piston, which would then chamber and fire them. 


Brown patent model, looks just mine only it is a lot smaller:

http://www.patentmodel.org/ViewModelDetail.aspx?ModelId=10


Brown "letter patent" incl. drawings:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=NYFoAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=patent:30045&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=1&as_miny_ap=2009&as_maxm_ap=1&as_maxy_ap=2009&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=1&as_miny_is=2009&as_maxm_is=1&as_maxy_is=2009#PPP1,M1



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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2009, 07:19:30 AM »
I posted a link to this page, on the British militaria site recently posted in other discussions.  The thread I began there is at:

http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/8601/master/1/

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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2009, 08:58:17 AM »
John,

You  posted that in the Archives and nodbody will read it there.  That's were we move posts when the main forums fill up.  I don't have Moderator in that archive, but I will have one of the mod's who does have access move it to British Militaria and History for other to read.

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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2009, 10:41:16 AM »


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You  posted that in the Archives and nodbody will read it there.  That's were we move posts when the main forums fill up.  I don't have Moderator in that archive, but I will have one of the mod's who does have access move it to British Militaria and History for other to read.


Thanks for the assistance, so many boards with kind of overlapping titles, will take me a while to get used to.

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Re: Help me ID enigmatic breechloading cannon model please
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2009, 06:25:59 AM »
ENGINEERING HELP REQUESTED!

I need to narrow down the search for this cannon's story somehow, and if I could determine what country it was designed or made in, that would help a lot.  For instance, maybe someone can tell what the country of origin of the "walnut" looking wood the carriage is made of.

However perhaps the most straightforward thing to do would be a dimensional analysis, IF we assume it is a scale model made to some commonly-used scale factor for model cannons, such as 1/6, 1/8, or 1/10.  I'm sure others were used but that's primarily what I've seen in 19th C. US-made cannon models, which were made by the government or made for consideration of the government.

The bore is the single most important dimension, and that is 0.610 inches.   Both trunnions measure the same diameter so I suspect that's a pretty good number.  I tried various scale factors with the known bore diameters for naval guns and the only thing I came close with was a 6-pounder, not really a good naval bore diameter, but that's all that came close.  0.610 x 6 = 3.66 in., close enough to a 6 pdr. bore of 3.67 in.

I wasn't happy to stop there, I don't think it is supposed to represent a 6-pounder naval gun, but something more in the main battery, let's say something like a 24, 32, or 42 pounder, but the numbers don't work out.  So maybe it is from a country that had a metric standard?  Or if French, we have to use different bore diameters altogether since their pound weights were about 1.1 English pounds in the early 19th C. when I think this model was made.  I can't just throw out the possibility that this was a model for a 6-pounder, though, reason being that if this was a private inventor using his own funds, a 6-pounder may have been the largest demonstration gun he could afford, and this model was scaled to represent the largest gun he intended to build, or have someone build, in the future for firing demonstration.

Another dimension one could use for scale is the nominal barrel length, which is Exactly 12.0 inches, from muzzle face to rear of the basering.  For example, a USN 32 pounder chambered cannon of 42 hundredweight had a nominal length of 96 inches, so a 12-inch model would be correct for 1/8 scale.

I tried measuring the pitch of the breech closure screw threads, which is 5 threads per 0.28 inches.  That seems to work out to 17.857 TPI, quite an odd number, but a fairly tiny error in my measurement could have occurred, and it is really 18 TPI.  It didn't seem to convert well to metric, if I did it correctly.  I think I heard somewhere that in the UK there were a few different thread pitch measurement standards in use.

One big clue we do have is the tall dispart sight on the muzzle.  When I try and place that in terms of national origin, England comes to mind and not too many other countries.  The US really didn't put those dispart sights on naval cannons, as far as I know.

Anyone have any ideas please?

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Re: Help me ID breechloading cannon model please-ENGINEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2009, 07:43:03 PM »
That thread pitch IS a strange pitch; in metric I get 1.422 mm pitch.  I don't know if you can measure a longer number of threads or borrow a thread pitch gauge and measure with that, but 1.422 mm is strange also.  I suppose one could get that from an odd ball combination of gears if it really were desired. 

If you are really dating this as early 19th century, the metric system was pretty much unused even in France until the government forced its use upon the public sometime in 1840, so a metric thread pitch seems unlikely since it would require a metric machine to make it and machines stay in use a long time after their acquisition in most cases.

Five threads of 18 TPI would measure .2777" which is pretty close to .28" so unless you find a pitch gauge and measure using that, I would call it 18 TPI.  If 1/8 scale, that would be 2.25 TPI at full scale which is odd but not impossible.
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Re: Help me ID breechloading cannon model please-ENGINEERS NEEDED!
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 12:41:27 AM »
Have you explored it maybe being a Russian gun?  One of their base units was the arshine - "(n.) A Russian measure of length = 2 ft. 4.246 inches."  No idea how it was subdivided. Does it have any resemblence to a licorne? 
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 04:22:08 AM »
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Have you explored it maybe being a Russian gun?  One of their base units was the arshine - "(n.) A Russian measure of length = 2 ft. 4.246 inches."  No idea how it was subdivided. Does it have any resemblence to a licorne? 

Thanks, I'll have to look at some Russian naval guns of the period and see if there are any common characteristics, and also look at whether the bore diameter goes into those units you mention by a whole-number factor.

A Licorne was a pecularly Russian version of a land-based howitzer, and the model isn't similar in profile to a Licorne barrel.

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2009, 04:35:18 AM »
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If you are really dating this as early 19th century, the metric system was pretty much unused even in France until the government forced its use upon the public sometime in 1840, so a metric thread pitch seems unlikely since it would require a metric machine to make it and machines stay in use a long time after their acquisition in most cases.


Thanks.  I think this model was made sometime between 1800-1870, and more likely 1840-1870, so I'm more than happy to exclude the possiblilty that metric measures were used, it just makes the whole thing unnecessarily complicated.

I wonder if it is realistic to try and determine whether the carriage was made from English or American walnut (if it is even walnut, I'm no wood expert.)

There are little numbers (1-4) in india ink on the bottoms of the axles, and at least they are all arabic numerals, not Roman or Chinese or anything like that.  There are dot (punch) matchmarks on some other parts, so when a removeable part of which there are two that are right and left, the left one has one dot on the gun and one dot on the part, and right one has two dots on the gun and two dots on the part.  This is the case with the two "hand chocks" used for reinforcing the breech closure.

Maybe I'll try and get some photos of the little ink numbers, don't know whether they'd tell anyone anything but they seem to be the only marks on this thing.

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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2009, 05:54:18 AM »
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Have you explored it maybe being a Russian gun?  One of their base units was the arshine - "(n.) A Russian measure of length = 2 ft. 4.246 inches."  No idea how it was subdivided. Does it have any resemblence to a licorne? 

Thanks, I'll have to look at some Russian naval guns of the period and see if there are any common characteristics, and also look at whether the bore diameter goes into those units you mention by a whole-number factor.

A Licorne was a pecularly Russian version of a land-based howitzer, and the model isn't similar in profile to a Licorne barrel.

My pleasure.  I just thought it might be an avenue to explore since you hadn't mentioned Russia.  And they did things their own way. 

I've only read descripotions of Licornes, havn't seen pictures of tehm, but again, thought I would throw it out for consideration.

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2009, 07:15:31 AM »
Does the machining technology of the 1840-1870 period match the machining of this gun.   

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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2009, 03:22:12 PM »
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Does the machining technology of the 1840-1870 period match the machining of this gun.   

That's a good question, and I'm sure there are people on this board better qualified to answer than me.  I did notice that the "strap" of iron that holds the bronze or brass breech plug onto the gun is wrought iron, I can see seams (welding) in it.  As far as I know, this cannon model wasn't very complex when compared to any of the watches made during that time and even quite a bit before.  I found a site with 16th C. clocks made in Augsburg that are unbelievable.  Some of them tell you anything you'd want to know about time, tides, moon, whatever.

There are two more views of this available at the thumbnails in lower left, one of which shows the inside.  The folks who made that clock could probably have made this cannon model over their lunch hour.

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10239707

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2009, 12:39:54 AM »
Just a note on cannon machining,production etc.Although most production of cannons in this topic era were made in England,the Carron works after a disastrous beginning got their act together and began to achieve good quality and output.They also had ties to Russia and are another possible source to be looked at for mystery cannons.You guys put a lot into research so maybe I'll make Carron a subject to go after and be able to help.Nothing wrong with flying the flag either.This link will give a little info to start with.
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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2009, 12:48:18 AM »
If you go to the General overview link and hit it, scroll down-find Carron Iron Works and off you go.Hope you find something of interest.
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2009, 03:09:40 AM »
There are little numbers (1-4) in india ink on the bottoms of the axles, and at least they are all arabic numerals...

 I did that on the first cannon I built from scratch, and I'm not even an arab  ;D

 Since the blocks were not all machined exactly the same, I numbered them 1-4 and put an arrow showing which way they needed to be assembled.



 And here I thought I invented the practice (I used a sharpie, not india ink)...
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2009, 12:35:49 PM »
I'll bet the india ink will last longer.
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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2009, 08:24:55 AM »
Do you think either of these two British patents could describe this cannon model?  I'd like to get the drawings that go with this text-often the drawing will look very much like the model, and that's how a solid connection can be made if the words aren't specific enough.

1.  A.D. 1814, August 4, N° 3833.

PAULY, Jean Samuel.—"Improvements in the construction " and use of fire-arms." The charge is ignited by means of compressed air. A piston and cylinder, and suitable apparatus and valves for effecting the discharge are let into the stock in the rear of the barrel, in the axis of which is the touch-hole.

A breech-loading piece is also described, in which a hinged lever or lid is attached to the breech, and when it is raised it exposes a chamber for the reception of the cartridge. The air-compressing apparatus may be attached to the lever. The principle may be applied to cannon and revolvers; the moveable breech piece of the cannon works on two extra trunnions fixed near the breech. The breech is fastened by a screw.
[Printed, 6%d. See Rolls Chapel Reports, 8th Report, p. 101.]



2.  A.D. 1816, May 14.—N° 4026.

PAULY, Samuel Jean.—"Improvements in the construction " and use of fire-arms."

These relate to a method of constructing breech-loading firearms, and of making a gas-tight joint in breechloaders, and also of discharging fire-arms by condensed air; and are improvements upon those described in the Specification of former Letters Patent (see N° 3833, p. 36), being an improved lock and method of actuating the condensing syringe or piston and cylinder.

Improved breech-loading small arms and cannon are also described. The barrels of small arms have a hinge motion, and in cannon the breech end of the piece has also a hinge motion, and is connected with the trunnions by hooked cheeks; it is held in the rear by a screw; or the breech piece is formed of a part of the barrel which is lifted up on a hinge leaving a recess for the insertion of the cartridge, which is made up with an expanding base or culot.

" The difficulty of producing an air-tight or perfect closure " between the moveable breech and the body or remainder of the " gun" in breech-loading fire-arms is obviated by using a plug " which is so placed in the gun as to come between the charge of " gunpowder and the moveable breeching in all cases, and is " formed of lead, copper, or such other ductile materials as will " give way to the explosive force of the charge," and will so cover and close up the joint.

A collar of leather may be fixed round the ball to lessen windage.

[Printed, 1». OicZ. See Rolls Chapel Reports, 8th Report, p. 114.]


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Re: ID of breechloading cannon model -British patent drawings needed
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2009, 02:00:08 AM »
I'm guessing, if this model does represent the concept described in the 1814 patent, the relatively large brass dome-like structure at the breech is where the compressed-air mechanism was to be located.   I know based on how my trusty .22 Daisy VL rifle works, that the air in the act of being compressed remains hot enough to cause ignition in certain materials while it is being compressed (not while being released or decompressed.)  So the actual compressor mechanism must have been intended to be housed in that brass dome-like thing.  Maybe it was to have been spring-powered, like the Daisy, not sure.  It is a bit hard to see how such a device would have an advantage over the contemporary cannon flintlock firing mechanisms, but even if it didn't, it was different, probably unprecedented, and thus would have been patent-worthy.

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Re: ID of early breechloading cannon model-British patent drawings needed
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2009, 03:03:24 AM »
Here's more info I just found.  It seems Pauly's invention involved igniting a percussion-sensitive compound with compressed air, rather than the black powder propellant directly:

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On  12 September  1812 the Swiss inventor,
Johannes Samuel Pauly, obtained a French patent
covering a centerfire, breechloading gun which
used an obturating cartridge, for which he also re-
ceived a British patent (no. 3833, under the name
Samuel J. Pauly) in 1814, and another (no. 4026) in
1816. The latter two were novel in using com-
pressed air to ignite the fulminate instead of a
mechanical striker. Although "improvements" on
Pauly's ideas were patented in France between 1816
and 1824, Pauly's invention was the first practical
use of the new percussion ignition compounds,
by incorporating them with powder and ball into
a complete cartridge. The cases were of heavy brass,
sealing the breech by a tapered head, like a rubber
drain plug. The first of them (1812) used a "patch"
of detonating compound or a pellet which was
placed in a shallow recess in the head (plate lc).
In 1814, he added a short percussion nipple, using
a metallic cap (plate Id). His 1816 shot cartridge
(plate le) had a brass head equipped with a hollow
screw in its forward face. The charge and shot were
placed in a paper cylinder having a hard wad in
the base. A hole in this wad was perforated by the
head screw, through which ignition passed.6

Source:  http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/historytechnology/text/ssht-0011.txt

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Re: ID of early breechloading cannon model-British patent drawings needed
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2009, 05:00:08 AM »
I took a closer look at the breech mechanism and took more photos.  Now it doesn't look like it was supposed to be air-fired, nor does it look like it was designed to take cartridges.  This cannon has a conventional vent.  It may still be be associated with Paulys, since the basic breechloading arrangement matches the description in his 1814 English patent, but beyond that, I don't know.

Here's a slideshow with many closeups of the breech area:

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/?action=view&current=9cd92ea2.pbw