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Hunters Helping Farmers
« on: September 22, 2009, 04:43:12 AM »
Hoosier Hunters,
  Have any of you heard from the DNR or the selected farmers in regards to this program?  ??? I understood the information to say that after 1 Sept 2009, we(registered hunters) would start getting calls from interested farmers.

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 05:42:56 AM »
I am not familiar with the program. Could you tell more about it or where to find some info on it?
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 05:58:09 AM »
Here's a link to the DNR webpage.  It is temporarily shutdown for the rest of this year and should open back up next year.  It does give you an idea of how the program works.  Hopefully it is a success and we will be able to keep it going in the future.

http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/5452.htm

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 06:38:42 AM »
Dinny,
   I signed up for this program the minute I was allowed to.  I have not heard a word about it since.  I have not been contacted by either the DNR, a farmer, or anyone regarding it.  Season is getting closer every day and I don't expect to hear anything at this point.  I'm just going to go ask the farmer where I hunted last year.
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 06:42:48 AM »
Teddy12b,
  We're both in the same boat.  Be sure to ask the farmer about hogs and post accordingly. ;)

Thanks for keeping us posted.

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 06:59:05 AM »
The place I've hunted at the guy actually raises hogs elsewhere also, but it's never been a problem.
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 08:35:56 AM »
 I know of 3 others plus myself who have signed up for the Farmers hunters program. Noone has heard anything. I live in the country, so far no farmers have said anything about yet either. Maybe a hoax to get us on an anti list ;D
Just kidding.

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 09:04:27 AM »
Quote from: Lon371 on September 22, 2009, 08:35:56 AM
I know of 3 others plus myself who have signed up for the Farmers hunters program. Noone has heard anything. I live in the country, so far no farmers have said anything about yet either. Maybe a hoax to get us on an anti list ;D
Just kidding.

Lonny

Let's hope not..... :(
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 05:43:52 PM »
I signed up for the program and have heard nothing. The counties I have around me have plenty of hunters. You have to be family or close friends to get permission to hunt.
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 08:32:01 AM »
Latest reply from the DNR.

Adam -
Thanks for your webmail inquiry.  Below is the answer provided by Gary Langell  - Indiana Division of Fish and Wildlife Private Lands Program Manager and the contact person for the Hunters Helping Farmers program copied from an email similar to yours.  If you still have questions after reading through his response and would like to speak with him, his telephone number is (812) 334-1137.

Patti - DFW
"The Hunters Helping Farmers program is a registry program where hunters who would like to help a farmer reduce the number of antlerless deer on their farm can sign up. If a farmer can't find enough hunters on their own, then the Hunters Helping Farmers list is available to them. Farmers can begin calling their District Wildlife Biologist Tuesday, September 15 to get a copy of the list for their county. It is then up to the farmer to review the information that each hunter submitted on their application and call one or more hunters on the list to request their assistance. The Division of Fish and Wildlife does not pair the hunters with the farmers. It is up to the farmers to select the hunter(s), so you may or may not get called by a farmer. Since this is the first year for the program, we have no idea how many farmers will participate in the program. We will evaluate the program this winter to see what kind of farmer/hunter participation we received."

So I guess we will just wait and see. ??? ::)

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 09:48:23 AM »
Good feedback.  I love the idea of the hunters helping farmers program, but there's a hard reality to face here.  How many farmers do you know who are having a hard time getting hunters to ask for permission.  Realistically, I think most if not all farmers who would allow hunters are already doing so.  I don't see the farmers I know thumbing through a list of thousands to find my name.  I think the guys on the first few pages may get lucky, but alphabetical order is what it is.  :(
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 01:35:16 PM »
 I think this is a joke! How many farmers are going to pickup the Hunting Guide to look for a way to eliminate their deer? I talked to a couple farmers earlier today. They had no idea what I was talking about. Dont really matter as far as they are concerned, I take care of their deer problems already. But they are prominent farmers in the area, if they have not heard of it, then who has?? ::)

I think they had a blank spot in the guide, and needed to fill it.

 "Since this is the first year for the program, we have no idea how many farmers will participate in the program"
                              THEY WONT PARTICIPATE IF THEY HAVE NO IDEA IT IS AVALBLE!

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2009, 01:57:37 PM »
I think the big problem with this idea is that noone I know is going to allow anyone to hunt on their property that they don't personally know.  I was asked to patricipate in a hunt some years ago to eliminate a certain amount of deer from a property where crops were being destroyed.  It took the owner a long time to get permission from the state to have such a hunt but the hard part was to come up with a number of people he felt he could trust.

Anybody who farms any quantity of ground has full time help and that help along with family members usually take care of most of the hunting needs.
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2009, 04:32:07 PM »
Quote from: Lon371 on September 23, 2009, 01:35:16 PM
                              THEY WONT PARTICIPATE IF THEY HAVE NO IDEA IT IS AVAILABLE!

I agree!  Most farmers read the newspaper.  An ad in the local paper would be cheap and likely read every Sunday morning. Farmers do share info with each other, once the word gets out, it should spread fairly well. Let's just hope it's good news spreading. ;) Who knows for sure how it will all work-out for us. I say we continue to give it time, no harm in waiting.

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 05:00:12 PM »
I agree about giving it time.  There are still hunters out there that don't know about pistol cartridge rifles.
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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2009, 08:24:06 PM »
More info to ponder about...

Hunters Helping Farmers Program Status
A total of 7,332 deer hunters registered for the Hunters Helping Farmers program by the August 30, 2009 cut-off date. Now, those deer hunters are in a holding pattern, hoping to be contacted by a landowner that is looking for deer hunters to help reduce the number of antlerless deer on that property. The Division of Fish and Wildlife is encouraging landowners that are experiencing deer damage to increase the number of deer hunters hunting on their land during the upcoming deer seasons with a focus on removing antlerless deer. Landowners can contact their District Wildlife Biologist beginning September 15 to obtain a list of hunters who registered with the Hunters Helping Farmers program in their county. The Division does not pair any particular hunter with a farmer, but rather it’s up to the farmer to choose hunters from the list and contact the hunters directly.
The Division is recommending that landowners with unacceptable levels of deer damage have at least one hunter hunting specifically for antlerless deer during the firearm season for every 5 acres of deer habitat on their property. Example: If a farmer had 40 acres of deer habitat, he should attempt to have at least 8 deer hunters, spread evenly across the firearm season, hunting the property specifically for antlerless deer. Furthermore, the Division encourages those same farmers to have hunters hunting specifically for antlerless deer during the archery season. Landowners should replace one antlerless firearm season hunter for every two antlerless archery season hunters. So in the above example, if a landowner had 6 antlerless archery season hunters, he should also have 5 antlerless firearm season hunters, for a total of 11 hunters hunting sometime during the deer hunting season hunting specifically for antlerless deer.
Since this is the first time this program has been attempted, the Division has no way of knowing what kind of response to expect from landowners. The Division will keep track of the number of landowners requesting a county Hunters Helping Farmers list and conduct an evaluation of the program this coming winter.

What do you think of those DNR generated hunters to acres ratios?  I would feel slightly crowded if there were that many hunters near me on the same farm.

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Re: Hunters Helping Farmers
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2009, 09:42:04 PM »
  Not only would I feel crowded, but I would be in fear of the pressure chasing off the deer until after the hunting seasons.
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