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Offline j350hp

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nef acp
« on: October 06, 2009, 10:52:44 AM »
has anybody made a handi rifle into a acp like 45,10mm,40 sw, or 357 sig. the latter would be awsome and 10mm in a longer barrel o yeah.
i see fox ridge offers a 45 acp. i wonder because i carry the old glock 23 and i like to be able to shoot my ammo in all my guns. just an idea and curios if its been done.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 11:15:23 AM »
Fox Ridge sells Thompson Center products.  They sell almost any caliber made, or can get it made.  The low prices of H&Rs do not allow the manufactor of these off the wall calibers.  They would not make enough to make it profitable.  Very few people would buy them anyway.  If you want a .45ACP get a Contender Carbine or an Encore. 

I love my Contender Carbines just as much as my Handis.  I don't like the Encore.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 12:04:54 PM »
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i see fox ridge offers a 45 acp.
[/quote]                                    I have a TC 18" bull made in 45 auto It shoots Lee 255 RFN at 1050fps with 9.4grs of HS7 . It will group 2 inches at 100 yards and ring the 10" gong at 200 yards. It is more fun than a Ruger 10/22. If they made Handirifle in 9mm or 45 would buy one in a heartbeat.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 12:51:03 PM »
I would like to have one in 45winmag.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 12:58:43 PM »
I have always liked that old warhorse the .45 ACP. I used to shoot them competetively and they are accurate and a real manstopper to boot. I am all set up to reload the .45 and they are simple and easy to load, and the cases seem to last forever. I had a .45 ACP Handi made up a couple of years ago buy a great gunsmith using a SS barrel stubbed into a 20 gauge barrel stub and it's a great gun. I say if it is what you want get one, mine is great!!!....<><....:)
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 03:11:15 PM »
i know they probally wont make a production run but is there any reaming possibilities.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 03:19:38 PM »
Nope, the only bore that size is the 45Colt which the chamber is too big and the bore is .452" instead of .451", only choice is to do a stub which is covered in the FAQs, or have a smaller barrel rebored,  like a 22Lr or maybe the 22Hornet, plan on spending about $300 plus the cost of the donor parts either way.

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Re: nef acp
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 12:12:17 PM »
at that price buy me a case of shells and shoot a long time.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 12:14:49 PM »
Tim,

Dumb question on this subject.  I have heard of .308 brass being used to make .45 ACP cases and rims are the same diameter.  Would a .308 chambered barrel or other barrel chambered for a .308 family cartridge be useable for boring and chambering to the .45 ACP?  

If not, I don't believe it misses by much.  I just tried to drop a .45 ACP round in my .308 Handi and the bullet goes in and the mouth of the cartridge starts and then stops just as it goes in the chamber.  This rebore has crossed my mind in the past.

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 12:21:21 PM »
It would work if the 308 chamber is small enough to be cut so the round can headspace on the case mouth.

Tim

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 02:05:19 PM »
It's close but I don't think we get the cigar this time.  IAW the diagrams for the two cartridges it shows the .308 is .454 wide where the neck begins which is about 5/8" (.658) in front of the .45 ACP case mouth which the would leave the rifling shallow where lands and grooves begin.  At least that is what I'm seeing.  The smith doing the rechamber and rebore make final determination?  I hope diagrams for both cartridges attach.

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Re: nef acp
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2009, 02:12:28 PM »
I think it would depend on the actual chamber you want to work with, a chamber cast would be in order.  ;)

Tim
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 07:14:39 AM »
.45 WSSM with Nitro tips 280 gr hollow point surgeon nightmares. Can you please make me up a couple thousand of these, then I will be ready for war.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2009, 07:36:07 AM »
many years ago I made up a bunch of specialized .45 ACP cases from 30-06 brass. It was cut to headspace on a slight lip where the .45 ACP case would have ended and then was turned down a couple of thousandts for a short distance (less than 3/8" IIRC to facilitate the holding of shot). They were made to be shot filled cases which could be used with just a cardboard overwad. I think I still may have a couple in with my old "stuff"...They worked pretty well....<><....:) 
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2009, 11:51:10 AM »
Don't know about using .308 brass for a .45ACP.  Back during the early 70s I used .308 brass to make my .44 Auto Mag rounds.  Very simple just cut to length, run it through the resizing die, touch the rough cut up with a trimmer, prime, and load with powder and bullet.
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Re: nef acp
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2009, 06:01:08 AM »
I've got a .32 cal barrel, so I think I will make up a .32 ACP barrel for a door prize for next Springs PD shoot, that should be a one of a kind.  Larry
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