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bobg · « **on:** September 03, 2009, 07:02:29 AM »

Has anyone in the crappy state of NY ever had their pistol permit revoked? Might be a stupid question. People might not want to admit this on line.

bobg

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2009, 11:44:30 AM »

I'm sure someone some time has but as hard as they are to come by the list of folks who could lose it has to be kinda small.

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2009, 12:38:22 PM »

Had mine about 15 yrs.no problem yet but they do send out police officers twice to check out the house,but in Westchester, N.Y. the is not unusual.ONE thing that is very important is to have all firearms also on your wifes permit.If you have the nerve to die they will be at your door to get them before your cold.

bobg · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2009, 02:01:00 PM »

The reason i ask was mine was revoked. I had it for 20 years. It was issued in niagara County. I was charged with a felony. It was proven to be a false charge and the charge was dropped. All of my long guns were returned. The pistol permit office said it was a privilige not a right to own a hand gun in NY. They told me they saw no reason why i should need a pistol permit. I wanted to charge the State Troopers with illegal search and siezure for coming into my house when i wasn't home and taking my firearms. My lawyer said to forget it. He said they would stop me for some stupid reason every time i pulled out of my driveway. Seeing that i could not have them. They had to be picked up by a dealer. The dealer said if he wanted to bother selling them for me he could get $4000 for them. Said he didn't really want to be bothered. A friend of mine???. offered me $2000 for them and the dealer charged me $300 to do the paper work. I sold them. I ended up with $1700 for over $4000 worth of guns. The State of NY su--s. Sorry for the long post. Just venting off some steam.

bobg

bubba · « **Reply #4 on:** October 11, 2009, 04:24:59 PM »

I had a buddy get his revoked in st lawrence county. He had a handgun stolen out of his locked truck and it was locked in the glove compartment. The judge said he was being irresponsible. But here in st law county you do not get a concealed carry any more. You can either get a home use or recreation use. That means you better be on the way to go shooting or hunting if you get stopped with one in your vehicle.

Graybeard · « **Reply #5 on:** October 11, 2009, 05:36:02 PM »

Why do you people live in such a place? I just cannot understand putting up with such a place.

str8shooter48 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2009, 06:46:23 PM »

Damn if I know. Well lets say my wife doesn't want to leave. I'm not to happy here. This year I retired and figured with all this time on my hands I'll have plenty of time to hunt. Wrong! With the way our governor is running things and messing with the price of Hunting licenses I said screw it. I'll hunt again when these dumb a$$ politicians wake up. Guess I'll never hunt again in NYS

I can see a sporting goods garage sale in the future.

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:46:05 AM »

I just heard from a fellow hunter his license in N.Y. cost the same as his out of state C.T. license.

bubba · « **Reply #8 on:** October 12, 2009, 02:53:06 AM »

when I got my license super sportsman and applied for a dmp, I got two dollars back out of 100. I stay in NY right now because I work for the state. when my retirement day arrives, in just two short years and two months, that will also be packing day.

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2009, 06:34:23 AM »

I am on a state retirement now,one thing you have to think about is some other states will tax your retirement,which is something to think about when getting out of this------state.

Graybeard · « **Reply #10 on:** October 12, 2009, 12:26:20 PM »

You CAN'T be serious. You'd let a little matter like state income tax in some other state keep you in a cesspool like NY? I just can't comprehend such a mindset. I don't know about other states but here in Bama state income tax is a max of 5% and there are lots of things to get the adjusted gross down way below what ya really take in and that 5% is only on all over some amount which I forget since my retirement isn't taxed here.

bobg · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:28:42 PM »

Is social security taxable anywhere? I was told i no longer have to file taxes now that i am retired. I think you are wrong Bill. New Jersey is the a hole of the world. My daugher lives in West Virginia. She wants me to move there. Never been there. She said she lives in the holler 23 miles off the main road. 45 mile drive to the nearest grocery store. Sounds like my kind of place.
bobg

Mikey · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2009, 01:53:41 AM »

Social Security is considered taxable income. If you think you no longer need to file taxes because you are retired or piossibly because your retirement income places you below a certain income level you are incorrect and in neu yawk they will come gitcha for their money, for sure.....

Even if you are a retired state worker whose pension is not taxed at the state level neu yawk is still not the place to be just because your income is not state taxed. The property and school taxes here are grievous.

Do not mistake the idea that this state could easily become the largest welfare state in the country on this side of the Mississippi with kalifornika being the largest in the western part of the nation, and this just means you will pay more in taxes than it is worth staying for.

I retired from state employ and would leave but for a business. I own land here and the liberals and dems want to penalize me for that since I won't sell it for condo-land so they can put mo tax $ in their pockets.

But wait just a bit, there may well be a revolution in the works and if one happens to forment somewhere in this state it will be a good one. I figure that if a revolt cuts off nyc from the rest of the state that would be between 40-60% of upstate's resources and tax $ that would remain upstate instead of going to nyc. Nice thought.......

kitchawan kid · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2009, 02:10:24 AM »

Mikey,I hope you have something there.I am a state retirement person so have to think about which state will tax my funds.Being that my famaily has been here since before the revolutionary war it does give one alittle concern about where to move to.It may be better to stay and fight for our rights.

1marty · « **Reply #14 on:** October 14, 2009, 03:54:54 PM »

I live in Rockland County, NY about 40 miles north of the city. It took about 4 months to get a pistol license and all I needed, after the usual FBI check, to do was take a 1 hour saftey course. The license has no expiration.
My hunting is done on state land (17,000 acres) about 20 minutes from my house and I nail a deer every year. In fact this year if you get a deer deep in the woods you can call on your cel phone to have the conservation officer come in and help you get the deer out. Things aren't that bad.

skylar957 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 14, 2009, 04:12:24 PM »

Quote from: 1marty on October 14, 2009, 03:54:54 PM

I live in Rockland County, NY about 40 miles north of the city. It took about 4 months to get a pistol license and all I needed, after the usual FBI check, to do was take a 1 hour saftey course. The license has no expiration.
My hunting is done on state land (17,000 acres) about 20 minutes from my house and I nail a deer every year. In fact this year if you get a deer deep in the woods you can call on your cel phone to have the conservation officer come in and help you get the deer out. Things aren't that bad.

Not that bad, Until the Officer sees that you made one little tiny mistake and didn't properly sign your tag over for transportation and notifies the dec. Sterling Forest State Park is a Death Trap. I have been shot at twice during rifle season and once had a guy put his gun up on me while I was walking up the dirt road. Somebody is going to get shot in that place. Too many city slickers out to shoot anything that moves. And you still have to drag your deer to a "Pick up station" .

1marty · « **Reply #16 on:** October 14, 2009, 04:52:47 PM »

I'm 66 and was hunting there when it was private and then public and never had a problem. Two years ago I shot a deer and two conservation officers helped me load it on my vehicle. I go way up into the hills. Most guys are too lazy and stay near the road and wonder why there are too many hunters around. If you read the hand out this year they'll come into the woods and take the deer to the check in station, IF you call the conservation office on your cel or you can drag and load the deer on your car and take it to the check in station yourself. Most of the 17000 acres is open to hunting. Each year I find there are less and less hunters. If anything, they've been trying different programs to get young people interested in hunting.

skylar957 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2009, 03:05:23 AM »

I too have been hunting there for at least 30 Years. I too have been thru the Privately owned days of literally having the place to myself. But once the 600+ Acres on Indian Hill were sold, It seemed like everyone and their brother had to hunt there. And no, I am not a road hunter, But you need to traverse the dirt roads and Hiking trails that litter that place now Just to get out of the "War Zone". I do agree that most are Lazy and only stay within 100 YDS of the roads.

1marty · « **Reply #18 on:** October 16, 2009, 03:09:26 PM »

all I know is that I have my "secret" spot and I get a deer either opening day or the following day. anyway, good luck this year-

The Hermit · « **Reply #19 on:** October 16, 2009, 04:53:27 PM »

I'm blessed enough that I "could" stand in my doorway and drop a deer most any morning.
I can shoot both sexes here in season. I was watching a 2 year old doe this morning and a yearling was still trying to nurse.
To the guy with the permit problem in St Lawrence county, have him contact Atty. Gary Miles.
I carry anywhere in NY except NY City. When ever I was stopped in a traffic roadblock, I always alerted the cop that I was carrying concealed with a permit. I never have been asked to see the weapon nor the permit. I do travel to the reservation and thats a whole diff ball game. Gotta love my Indian friends.
Too bad the drug problem is so bad up there and the smuggling is bad my neck of the woods.
I used to stand in the woods at night and watch them unload. They never knew I was there, which is probably a good thing.
It's good thing the tourists are gone. I can wonder farther away from my cabins now.
GB, if you could visit the north country, you might like it here. Its actaully better than we make it sound.The 1000 Islands are beautiful. Northen Lights in the winter.I can lay in bed at night and hear the geese flying and the coyotes howling. I don't think I could get used to the heat in Alabama. To each his own.

The Hermit

bubba · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2009, 05:32:38 PM »

Hermit,

the guy who had th epermit problem in st law county, it was a few years ago. Our beloved judge ow was the da and miles awas an ada. So, he is not the guy to call. I agree northern new york is great but it is getting almost as bad as the rest of the state tax and losing everythign wise. We had a major argument with a local website posting a pic of a guy with the bear he harvested, now the website wont post pics like that on the main page cuz a few tree huggibg whiner libs threatened to not use the site anymore.

wreckhog · « **Reply #21 on:** October 18, 2009, 12:20:43 PM »

Not me but a huge number of guys get them revoked for domestic violence misdemeanors. Even a lot of ex-military that became contractors in Iraq. Don't mess with wifey or they will take your guns away for good.