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Offline teamnelson

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Fabian Socialism
« on: January 14, 2010, 01:56:03 PM »
I'm following the Fabian Society backwards, and it splintered from a group devoted to pacifism and vegetarianism of all things, influenced by Tolstoy on the concept of Christian Anarchy, and Rosmini who claims his thoughts reach back to Augustine and the concept of the ideal being. None of those foundational elements jive with socialism as applied by the Fabians of today. What happened?
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Re: Fabian Socialism
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 02:25:12 PM »
The influx of particular members clarified the one true mission, seen by the Fabian socialists as necessary to accomplish, human perfection- possible, in their eyes, only by the careful manipulation of culture and human events by those of superior intellect. Deception was/is their primary M.O. By recruiting various promoters of good health, social justice, clerics and the like, they could little by little, change the beliefs and attitudes of the day, by making new ideas more palatable, kind of like the pitch man in a con job or advertisement today. There was a stream of persons who were highly altruistic, who upon initial introduction into the society, felt they had "come home." After becoming more familiar with the agenda and strategies of the society, many people left in disillusionment.

Christianity and social justice has always been connected, and some orders of the clergy and theologians ultimately crossed the line into fabian socialism, many deluded into thinking a perfect man glorifies God, and hence people should be forced to do and live a certain way because its good for them and glorifies God. Sound familiar? George Bernard Shaw summed up his Fabian Socialistic beliefs when he said, to paraphrase, Think of a world that will provide you with a place to live, food, all that you need. If you don't want to eat, you will be force fed, and forced to grow healthy and strong, and given a job. If you refuse to work, likely you will be executed, because you are of no use to society and its developement. End of paraphrase. Reminds me of the hive and worker bees... pretty spooky stuff. Bertrand Russell thought so to0 after a few years in the society. He left. But if you look up a list of members over time, I'm sure his name is included. Honorable former members, with good intentions that the society twisted perversely to accomplish, incrementally, its plan.

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Re: Fabian Socialism
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2010, 07:50:31 AM »
Very astute.
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