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Offline Hank McMauser

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« on: October 13, 2003, 03:57:34 PM »
I just made a short starter.I turned a 2" poplar ball,and a 7/16"cherry rod on the lathe and made one I still need to dish the ends of the rods.

   I also made a board with 8- 1/2" holes to hold my patched roundballs for quicker field loading.don't know what you call this but I've seen them in books before  
    my next thing to make will be a powder measure(non adjustable),and a possibles bag.anyone have suggestions,or tips?

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2003, 06:52:13 PM »
Yep, always made all of mine for the rondy's (and extras for the trade blanket), and since I have recently started up with BP again, have been making everything again.   Luckily I kept some of my old possibles (scrimed powder horns, some of the beaded leather, real trade beads, etc.) but am doing all the rest as time allows.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2003, 02:29:49 AM »
Welcome to the insanity Ladobe!
I make all my own accoutrements, clothing, etc.  The interest for me is not just shooting, but what is commonly refered to as experimental archeology (ref: http://historicaltrekking.com/).  I find making and using my impliments educational and satisfying.  I never use a match in the outdoors...it's either flint & steel or cold...and I went cold a few nights.  I made my own shooting pouch while recouperating from shoulder surgery one year.  Best thing I could have done, as I had plenty of time to do my research and choose my materials.  I also made a small horn to go with it from a pronghorn antelope.  They truly turns heads.  My mocs are the best I've ever had on my feet, but it took 3 tries learning how to make them fit just right.  

I have trimmed my load to only that which is REQUIRED.  I find ways to handle situations rather than "buy" something.  Too much crap out there for me.  If I have to forage, so be it.  I have increased my outdoor skills considerably, rounding out my "character" as well as myself.  I used to travel all over the country and found quiet time foraging for new things to eat on the road.  It was my foundation when I had no control of anything else.

Let me suggest a few sites to get you started: http://www.televar.com/~willgo/pastgate/notebook/content/index.htm
http://www.muzzleloadermag.com/
http://members.boardhost.com/tmmh/

Occasionally, a traditional shooter will post here and I choose to participate.  I haven't written this much to anyone in months, so if you want more info, give a shout.  Beware...there are "experts" out there that will tell you anything.  I am pretty strict about what I can and cannot do, as I focus on one period in time.  I have great resources (evidence) of what is acceptable or not.  Your needs may not be the same as mine, but do your homework before dumping $ unnecessarily as I did at first.  

Good Luck
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Re: accoutrements
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2003, 11:46:03 AM »
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Welcome to the insanity Ladobe!


Bob,

Yeppers, traditional all the way here - with everything as authentic as possible (accroutiments/stinkpoles, etc.).   My period when I did this in the 70's was the fur era in the Shining Mountains - and that's what it will be again now.   I did the research real heavy back then - ran with a like minded clan.   Still remember the how's and why's even now, so its just a matter of time and materials to get back up to speed.   And as one who did lots of primative rondy's/camps (in primative areas of the high Rockies), I learned a long time ago about dragging along plunder that could be lived without.   Some of the treks in/out were long and steep.   But I did enjoy making the possibles enough so that I always made extras for bartering... and I am starting to do so again.   Used to be pretty good at scrimshawed horns and antler, period knives, leather and bead work - only fair to midling with quill.   Eyes don't like the close work anymore, but will be doing leather work and shooting impliments, maybe a few custom shooters... and of course the trade beads.

This local clan isn't anywhere near the group I did before - their idea of a good bi-monthly 3-day shoot means taking the tin tepee's along, and I doubt many of them would survive a truly primative rondy.   But they have fun I guess to the level they are aware of, and do a couple of so called primative camps each year (but only 1/2 mile from their iron horses).   No other groups around here that I can find, and its a long haul to the fur country from here.

Thanks for the links... I already do The Hide.

Ladobe
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2003, 12:53:49 PM »
The spirit is still alive mates! I've just begun my quest for true period correctness,,small game is open in my region,but I spent sunday gathering wood fer bow-n-drill,moss fer char,found a few "chantrell" as my reward. My greatest joy is teaching to my young son thing's he'll not soon forget.
 
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2003, 01:43:12 PM »
Well, I'm not a trekker so my stuff might not fly in all circles but since I have 2 daughters and a wife, my possible bags are made from "old" purses.  A handy powder measure is empty .410 shot shells-(cut to the charge), or hollowed out antlers.  Powder horn: a small hand lotion bottle with a folding spout works great, touch hole picks are paper clips, speed loaders are coin wrappers, Pan brush: look around your office for HP laserprinters, models 4, 4+, 5 and a few others, lift the toner lid and you will see the handiest little green plastic brush just sitting there-(unless I've repaired your machine :) .. I use what I find and spend my money on guns.

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PUT THAT BACK!
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2003, 02:13:21 PM »
Hey 1860, I used to teach for HP...printer maintenance!  We never could figure out where those things went.

I don't use a brush...nevre found a use for it.  I wipe my flint and pan with my thumb.  I started out the same way everyone else does...scrounging!  But as I whittled down my traps, I now carry just the essentials.  

Ladobe...where are you in the Rockies?  I lived 13 years in Cheyenne.

Good to talk traditional for a change! :D
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2003, 02:56:19 PM »
That's the spirt 1860 :D , just bring'r back a few more years and you'll do fine :grin:

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2003, 03:23:10 PM »
Ladobe,
Sounds like you need to get aholt of the American Mountain Men - I am not a member being too long in the tooth for such doins - but I have friends in the group.  

When they ride into camp out of the woods, you are taken back in time for that brief moment, and really feel as if you are there 150 years ago.

Awsome!

I have made my possible bag, powder horn, powder measure, and such.  I run my own ball and weave my own patches - well maybe not the patches.  I have a deer horn short starter but usually thumb my patched ball down the bore.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2003, 06:23:23 AM »
Been shooting smokepoles and going to Rendezvous for 25 years. Make my bags, horns, starters,  flintlock rifles , selfbows and primitive arrows with flint points. It is very addicting and you meet great people and new hunting partners. There is alot of people out there to help, just do a little searching on the internet under muzzleloading, primitve shoots.

This might not be the place, if so take it away.

I have a new Pierce Whitney 4 point wool trade era blanket, red w/black stripe, new, still in the bag. I looking to trade it for a Contender barrel. Any takers?

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2003, 08:11:20 AM »
I've only been into muzzleloading for about 10 months.  I've built two loading blocks, a short starter, and two powder measures.  I cast roundballs and R.E.A.L. slugs.  Cut my own patches.  Mix up moose milk lube.  Made one of those little barrel flushing tubes.  I have in the past made some gun powder.  I'm not all that much into era correctness.  I just love shooting that muzzleloader.  :grin:
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2003, 12:00:28 PM »
Bob,

 :grin: , Too bad they did away with them when they started with the 4000, but I've got my share in my desk drawer.  You want a job?? I could use a good tech.

Only time I really use a brush is when I'm climbing or going down a tree.  Rest of the time I use my thumb, shirt tail or anything else that's handy.

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2003, 12:07:09 PM »
Ironwood,

Me too, I'm a "gun guy" and just happen to like old style guns.  The period they come from interests me only to the way the guns were used, what the people dressed like and such doesn't do much for me.  That may change when I get some time( Retirement/no kids).  I also like old winchesters and revolvers, but going to a Cowboy match was kind of boreing, to much dress up stuff and not enough shooting.  Nothing personal to those who like that kind of thing, I just like to hear them go boom and see thing fall over.. :lol:

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2003, 03:24:54 PM »
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...Ladobe...where are you in the Rockies?  I lived 13 years in Cheyenne.


Ranch was near Fish Lake, UT (Sevier County), then the Wasatch Front, Mack's Inn, ID and Wilson, WY.   Family still has the ranch in UT and the homestead in ID.   On the Mojave Desert now... but I'm going back to the mountains soon I hope for the remainder of my days.   I used to go to Cheyenne on business sometimes (at Unicover) - usually flew to Denver and drove up, or passed through on my returns from Rapid City.

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Ladobe,
Sounds like you need to get aholt of the American Mountain Men - I am not a member being too long in the tooth for such doins - but I have friends in the group.  


When I did all the rondy's and pow wows in the 70's-80's they were AMM and Gore Society sponsored, and very period correct.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2003, 05:10:07 PM »
Ladobe,

I'm very familiar with Mack's Inn.  Live about 20 miles South of there.  Great hunting country and prettiest place in the Western U S.

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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2003, 06:56:14 PM »
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Ladobe,

I'm very familiar with Mack's Inn.  Live about 20 miles South of there.  Great hunting country and prettiest place in the Western U S.

C F


Sounds like you must have been down around Hatchery Ford or Lookout Butte (seems like it was about 30 to Ashton).   Family place is east of Mack's several miles on Moose Creek (the salmon runs are awesome) - all built and fenced with knotty lodgepole pine naturally.   I think it was built in the 30's or early 40's (I'm a 49er), and to this day the huge potbelly stove is the only source of heat (although electricity was added since I lived there).   I used to spend a lot of time up at Dicks place on the backside of Henry's (Wild Rose Ranch), and of course on Henry's Fork just below the Island Park Dam and on the Buffalo.   Also stayed at Pinky's all the time (hell of a ride on horseback) so I could fish the Gallatin or run up the road to Three Forks even once in a while.  I'd be gone for several days to weeks at a time on those trips.   Did most of my hunting on the ranches bordering Yellowstone.   Really love that county... in the summertime, and would go back in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the winters.  I think the place sits empty most of the year now days - probably only weekend jaunts or short stays during the runs by kids and grand kids.   Anyway, thanks for making me remember pard.

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2003, 02:08:03 AM »
Anyone ever made a powder flask out of a bone before?  I have two thigh bones from a cow, I trimmed down the ends, so now I have two interstingly shaped bone tubes.  I figure on plugging the ends and putting a spout on one end.  I am planning on sealing the inside of the bone with a sealent or beeswax if I go traditional.  I have trimmed one enough it would be a good pistol flask/priming horn.  Considering these bones cost me all of $1.00 at the pet store, I was wondering if there was a reason I have never heard of it being done before?

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2003, 04:07:01 AM »
you could work the sides down tin enough to see through when you hold it up to light.  Bone that this is pretty brittle, but it would be unique!  did you think about using it as a priming horn?  a simple cap and plug sould work.
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2003, 01:57:32 PM »
I make everything myself. Pick a project and think it out.

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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2003, 05:33:47 AM »
This is a powder horn I made as a tribute to my Father. He passed away two years ago after fighting brain tumors for two years.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2003, 05:41:57 AM »
You're a good man Flatlander, my hats off to you.
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2003, 10:00:00 AM »
Just rendered some bear fat...got 4 quarts of amber oil!
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2003, 11:27:23 AM »
Make, my own, bags, knives, horns short starters and ramrods. Make a lot of the small things like needles and what not. Bone powder horn!! sounds interesting. Make most of my powder measures out of fore legs from whitetail. Them antler bone ones work well also.
Take care and have fun. Swany