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Offline cleveland48

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Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« on: August 22, 2009, 02:20:49 PM »
I just bought a Ruger Blackhawk 50th anniversary flattop in 44 Magnum. Can anyone tell me if this has any special bells and whistles besides the old flattop, and the old xr3 grip frame.  Thanks for any replies. Andrew.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 02:14:44 AM »
I have the same revolver. I do not believe it has anything special, other than the frame it is on. Mine is a joy to shoot and very accurate.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 08:32:59 AM »
I bought one last year.  I own 6 different Ruger SA's, and maybe its just in my head, but the 50th flat top seems to have a smoother, tighter action then the rest, as well as a great trigger pull.  I wonder if there was any special tuning, or if I just got a good one?

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 07:52:13 AM »
One of the finest Ruger SA's I have ever owned. I did replace the grips on mine with factory rosewood from Ruger.
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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 10:37:37 AM »
Sorry to say, I got a lousy one...splotchy blue, cylinder endshake, lots of creep. I'm no Ruger novice, having owned many dozens. I've sent mine back.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2009, 07:56:48 AM »
Ken

I hate to hear that. Did it go back to Ruger?  I was hoping they were all given a little special treatment.
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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2009, 07:31:55 PM »
Cleveland48;
Actually, the 50th DOES have one very important feature shared with the New Vaquero, the .44 Lipsey Special and others - the cylinder alignment pawl set up. I have owned Ruger Single Actions over the years and was always aggravated when trying to load or unload - if you moved the cylinder just a tiny bit too far, you have to run it all the way around. That is aggravating in the extreme, for me. The new Flattops, as well as others have that solved in a very practical way. It makes these run LOTS nicer in every way.

I recently took delivery of a 50th Anniversary .44 Magnum and a .44 Lipsey Special and have a large smile on my face that I can hardly wipe off ;D.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2009, 03:42:18 AM »
Well I love mine too.And it is noticably better fitted and finished than my other blackhawks.Also another feature the 50th has is the micro adj. sights.
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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 11:43:01 AM »
Sorry to say, I got a lousy one...splotchy blue, cylinder endshake, lots of creep. I'm no Ruger novice, having owned many dozens. I've sent mine back.

To update, I received mine back today. The cylinder has been nicely reblued. Nearly all of the creep is gone, making it satisfactory. Nothing was done with the cylinder endshake, but I won't return it again.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2009, 11:34:38 AM »
Well i'm still enjoying shooing mine.  The stainless blackhawk I had would kick the base pin out after 10 or 15 hot loads.  The new flattop has not had that problem yet, but I haven't been able to work up to the max yet my digital scales are broken.  Does it seen to all of you that the action is good and tight on the gun?  The base pin on mine is tight, and their is hardly any endshake.  I do love this gun though.  And Aready killed my first pig with it, so I guess me and the old girl will be together for a while.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 04:43:45 AM »
Cleveland48;
Actually, the 50th DOES have one very important feature shared with the New Vaquero, the .44 Lipsey Special and others - the cylinder alignment pawl set up. I have owned Ruger Single Actions over the years and was always aggravated when trying to load or unload - if you moved the cylinder just a tiny bit too far, you have to run it all the way around. That is aggravating in the extreme, for me. The new Flattops, as well as others have that solved in a very practical way. It makes these run LOTS nicer in every way.

I recently took delivery of a 50th Anniversary .44 Magnum and a .44 Lipsey Special and have a large smile on my face that I can hardly wipe off ;D.

Dale53

I share your pain on that.  It's a very easy mod to fix that.  That mod and the bolt mod to stop the dreaded turn line are things I do to all Rugers SA's when I get them.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 08:09:46 AM »
  Huh, guess I'm maybe the only one that doesn't see the extra 3/4 of a second needed to rotate the cylinder back around to the missed chamber.  Never got aggravated, irate, or was never late for anything because of that extra 3/4 second. :)
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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2009, 04:09:04 PM »
BlkHawk73;
I respectfully post a challenge for you. Shoot a new Ruger with the new pawl system for a couple of weeks (at least 200-300 rounds). Then go back to your original "that I call aggravating" Black Hawk and tell me you don't see a difference. ;D

I have shot an old model Super Black Hawk for many, many years (about 40 as I recollect) and I see a BIG difference in the operation between a New Model and the 50th Anniversary Flat Tops... (this applies to all of the new pawl models - the New Vaqueros, the 50th Anniversarys, and the .44 Lipsey Special).

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 12:17:55 PM »
I don't believe that these guns had any "special" tuning, etc. However Ruger is developing new manufacturing techniques that tend to hold the quality of individual parts to tighter tolerances. For example, the old way of machining cylinders was to drill three chambers at a time using multi spindle drill heads, and indexing fixtures on very heavy drill presses. That's why many old single six's especially ( small holes are harder to drill that way) shot groups that resembled a flying bird. Three this way, and three that. Starting about three years ago, Ruger started processing the chamber machining in cylinders on CNC machines that are capable of controlling size, and location of chambers, and throats much more closely. When you add enough of this kind of thing up, it makes a real difference in how a gun feels, and shoots. Like all gun companies, they have a ways to go, but they sure are headed in a good direction.

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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 44 Mag. 50 th edition
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2009, 03:13:25 AM »
One reason that the lockwork in the newer "Flattops" feels better to some folks is the fact that the "lock equipped" mainsprings are 17 lb. as opposed to the classic 23 lb. spring Ruger has used since December of 1953. Ruger's Old Army revolvers and the .357 Maximum Blackhawks were fitted with 25 lb. springs. I've added those springs to many of my larger calibre shooters.



The above image shows the shorter 17# spring and strut, and it's related lock assembly, along side the "standard" 23# spring and strut.

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