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Offline Ladobe

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« on: October 18, 2003, 02:19:00 AM »
'Morning gents - need some guidance again.  

Picked up a 1975 CVA Mountain Rifle last night, 45 caliber, that is in very good condition overall... 'cept for some mostly light surface rust on maybe 20% of the barrel and a little on the trigger guard, butt/toe plates, sights and thimbles.   So what do you gents find as the best method of removing the rust without destroying the nice patina of the browned surfaces???   Was thinking of trying some oil and 00000 steel wool and light hand rubbing.   Good idea - bad idea???

Guy I got it from says the stock nose cap and patch box are German nickel silver, but the stock cap looks more like pewter to me.   Patch box has a little staining, for what of a better word - mostly just a few smallish spots.   Same oil/wool treatment???

Stock is near perfect, but I will need to find another ramrod and it is missing the nipple.   Ramrod suggestions please, and who carries the 6X1 Hot Shot nipples that can be ordered on-line???

Came with a few cast balls that mic about .449-452, and must have been cast in a mould without a sprue cutter.   I don't have moulds for it yet... but .450?    Souldn't I be looking for .440 moulds for it???

Thanks for your help guys,

Ladobe
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2003, 04:44:51 AM »
I wouldn't use steel wool as it COULD scratch your barrel. I would oil a rag and remove the barrel from stock and give it a thorough cleaning inside and out. Afterwards use this oily rag and run it up and down the barrel.

As for the nipple and ramrod, check out Mountain State Muzzleloading at http://www.msmfg.com/ They have a product called a super rod that is supposed to be really excellent. They have a nipple that is comparable to the hot shot nipple. You can download their entire catalog using Adobe Acrobat Reader either by the page or the entire catalog.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2003, 04:44:14 PM »
ladobe,
I have the same rifle and the nose cap on mine is just what you said...
pewter !  The patch box is brass. I dont believe I have seen one with a silver nose cap from the factory. As for the ram rod , the factory rods were terrible. I made my own but what mamaflinter suggested will work well also. The RB mould I use is .440 and makes a very tight load with pillow ticking. I think you would need a mallet to drive that 452 ball down the barrel.
Get some breakfree and soak that rust for a couple of days and rub it down with a rag. If it is only light surface rust and not starting to pit it should take it off without the steel wool although it may take more than one soak and rub. Steel wool that fine I doubt would harm the barrel but could harm the finish :D
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2003, 05:34:43 PM »
Ladobe,

They were fine accurate shooting rifles.  I found a brass nose cap for a friend's rifle a few years ago.  It made the rifle look pretty good.  

I didn't know CVA browned their barrels back then.  

WD45 has a great idea with the break free.

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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2003, 03:38:46 AM »
crow-feather The CVA Mountain Rifles were available as kits and the kit rifles were left in the white.

Ladobe If you decide to use 0000 steel wool be very careful when going over the browning as it could scratch the finish on it. That's why I suggested the oily rag.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2003, 08:09:36 AM »
Mama,

You are correct as my first kit rifle was a CVA Kentucky. That rifle could cut string at 40 yards - if some one who was a good shot was shooting it.

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2003, 09:44:13 AM »
Yea the early CVAs are nice rifles. Hubby has a kit version Mountain rifle in .58 caplock. Very nice rifle and accurate as all get out. If you do your part it'll dang sure do its part.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2003, 04:00:27 AM »
Gents AND the Lady...

Thanks kindly for all the suggestions.   Yep, all the steel on it is browned 'cept for the nose cap and patch box.   Tried the oily rag thing when I first got it, but it's going to take a little more than that.  Didn't have a chance to do anything on it this weekend, but will try to get at it during the week if time allows.

Here's a quickie picture of it, and the 1973 Squirrel rifle that I also picked up recently.   The Squirrel is in new/unfired condition.   I'll get better pics later when I have more time - have to run to the day job shortly.

Thanks again everyone.

Ladobe


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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2003, 01:45:00 PM »
Ladobe,

Nice looking guns!  Instead of steel wool, grab a used "green scrubbie" from the kitchen sink and rinse it out well.  Let it dry, then saturate with oil and scrub with that.  Be careful on the corners of the barrel, as you can get down through the rust and browning very easily there!

You might try contacting Deer Creek Products, P.O. Box 246, Waldron, Indiana 46182.  Phone is (765) 525-6181.  They have all the parts for the CVA Mountain Rifle and Squirrel Rifle, make the barrels on a machine they got from Douglas when they quit making black powder barrels, and are fine folks to deal with.

-Kees-
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