building 22 hornet on shotgun frame

[pondenck]

  has aneyone done it. i need any input i can get .just dont where to look.   Jim

[Double D]

  has aneyone done it. i need any input i can get .just dont where to look.   Jim

What shotgun?

[Rangr44]

[building 22 hornet on shotgun frame -  has aneyone done it. ]

Savage Arms Co (Model 219) and H&R/N.E.F. (Handi-Rifle) to name two firearms manufacturers.

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[Reverend Recoil]

The diameter of the shotgun firing pin will have to reduced for small riflle or pistol primers.  The breach then will have to drilled and tapped for a bushing to fit the small diameter firing pin.  The 22 Hornet barrel can be fitted by threading or pinning in a 4" stub of the bored out shotgun barrel.  The shotgun extractor will have to modified to fit the 22 Hornet case rim.  The other things required to complete the job; install sights or scope bases, re-fit forearm, and hone the trigger.  This work will require at least a lathe and drill press.  None of this is hard to do but it could end up being more trouble than the final product is worth.  It is certainly not worth it if you will have to pay a gunsmith to do this work for you.  One alternative is to get a Handi Rifle in 22 Hornet or one in 223 Remington and load cartridges to 22 Hornet performance.

[Spanky]

Put a Hornet barrel on a NEF shotgun frame and be done with it.
The firing pin ain't a problem unless you load 'em hot.
I've shot hundreds of rounds out of mine without a problem.



Spanky

[billy_56081]

I'm with Spanky. If you do put a 22 Hornet barrel on an SB2 H&R frame you will find that the shotgun frame has a larger diamiter firing pin and top pressure hornet loads will swell the firing pin back into the firing pin hole. If you do this I would advise you use LiL Gun as it gives lower pressure while still a top performer.

[coyotejoe]

My own experience with "Lil-Gun" in the hornet was not at all good. Even with listed starting loads I would have unexplained pressure spikes which cratered primers in my Savage 219 with enough primer flow to lock up the action. I'd have to break the gun over my knee like a stick of firewood. I had the same experience with "Lil-Gun" in a K-hornet, a .357 mag and .357 max, all showed extreme velocity variations and pressure indications. I poured the last of the can on the lawn.

[billy_56081]

I myself and most others here have had the best of luck with LIL GUN and 35 grain Vmaxes in our H&R hornets. I get .75 inch groups out of my super light with it.

[pondenck]

 Thank all of you.i want to it put on iver jhonson 410 frame .have all of tools it takes to do work 0n guns.just doing it for fun Jim

[Rangr44]

[i want to it put on iver jhonson 410 frame ]

You might want to rethink that - or be sure your medical coverage is up to date.

Those old IJ shotgun frames were cast IIRC, and not investment cast of anything like the modern steels Handi's are.

I know I wouldn't care much for a little hand grenade going off a few inches from my face.

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[John Traveler]

Roger that last comment from Rangr44.

Those old single and double barrel shotguns were indeed made with cast mild steel or even cast iron receivers.  Not the most robust material for smokeless cartridge ammunition.

I once had the thrill of examining an old double barrel 20 guage shotgun that had been converted to .223 Remington caliber with barrel inserts.  The gun was not fired much, just a few factory rounds through each barrel was what I was told.  What was remarkable was that the cartridge heads had punched THROUGH the standing breech on the action.  Yep.  The cast iron breech was unable to withstand the 50,000 psi chamber pressure of the .223 cartridges.