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Offline mtbugle

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7.62x51 reloading data.
« on: December 08, 2009, 07:45:03 PM »
I can find plenty of data on reloading .308 cartridges. But I need to reload for a weaker fr-8 rifle. so it is critical to not exceed the 50,000 psi pressure limits of that gun. Is there a rule of thumb of how much to back off .308 charges to keep below 50,000. Or does some one have data for the limits of nato cartridge. Thanks in advance
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Re: 7.62x51 reloading data.
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 10:00:32 PM »
from what I understand the brass is stronger in regards to abuse... being stepped on, shaken, thrown around in an ammo can.  the pressures generated by limited case capacity will exceed .308 by a few thousand with the same powder charge... and while the brass is stronger, it in itself will push the charge up in PSI enough to negate that difference.  load down to the beginning loads in .308 using the slower burning powders, seat the bullets long as you can, and remember that LOADING DOWN IS A GOOD THING when it means not only failing to EXPLODE your rifle, but also to limit recoil and conserve your powder by using smaller charges.  I've noticed that for my Sierra hpbt 168grs (or 165, can't remember at the moment) I limited recoil by moving down from 45grs Varget to 43.4grs Varget using .308 winchester brass and winchester lrprimers.  recoil went from sharp and a bit painful to softer- more of a push and jiggle.  I think that if you step down to the beginning load in .308 for a slow powder WITH A LIGHT BULLET then you should be alright (lighter bullets take less thrust to get going, keeping the pressure spike down).  also, clean your barrel meticulously between testing every new load, use good/new brass, don't go over starting loads for .308 for your nato's.

let me know if my advise works for you (I don't use military brass since I'm fine with downloaded .308- no need for me to use "tougher" brass since I won't abuse my guns or ammo)

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Re: 7.62x51 reloading data.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 01:31:05 AM »
Don,

Try the Hodgdon site:  http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

I like their data (and powders) as they give both starting as well as max pressure for their loads so it shouldn't be difficult to find a good load that will run under your 50k psi limit for you.  Be aware depending upon the powder they show either in CUP or PSI in their data.

Brian

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Re: 7.62x51 reloading data.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 07:29:33 AM »
The FR8 is not the "weaker" action.  It is a M98 Mauser and will handle any .308W/7.62 NATO standard load.  Your are refering to the FR7/M1916s in 7.62 NATO which is general considered to be a "weaker' action.

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Re: 7.62x51 reloading data.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 10:21:56 AM »
thanks Larry for setting me straight on the action strength. Last time I was looking at internet on it I was seeing the wives tail arguments of it being too soft. I am glad to hear it has turned out to be safe for 308 pressures.
Thanks Don.