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Flight Cancelled
« on: December 06, 2009, 09:43:10 PM »
I just got this in an E-mail.  OK I remember hearing about a flight being canceled due to a passenger refusing to stop talking on his cell phone.  Thought at the time something was not right, but never heard anything else about it.  Then i got this e-mail today.  Don't know whether it is true of not.  I'll post it and maybe someone else knows something about it.  Rog 



 

I, Gene Hackemack, received this email from my good friend Tedd Petruna, a diver at the NBL facility [Neutral Buoyancy Lab], at NASA Houston, whom I used to work with.  Tedd happened to be on this same Flt. 297, Atlanta to Houston .

In my opinion, the muslims are all getting very brave now, since they have one of their own in the white house......read Tedd's story below.

 Gene Hackemack   
 
PS...can you imagine, our own news media now are so politically correct that they are afraid to report that these were all Muslims...unbelievable. Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna.   
 
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One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father.  On Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home.  If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a Air Tran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff.  It was on Fox.
 
This was NOT what happened.
 
I was in 1st class coming home.  11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire.  2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back.  As the plane taxied to the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with.  At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively.  This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time.  He ignored her as if she was not there.
 
The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess.  In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back aisle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it.  Now….they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad.  If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her.  (don’t ask me….I don’t make the rules, but I’ve studied)  The 3rd stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time.  To which one of the men said “shut up infidel dog!”  She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic.  At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk the cabin.  This is where I had had enough!  I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say “I got your back.”  I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said “you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!”  As I “led” him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him.  I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, “You WILL do the same!”  He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go.  As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered.  Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control.  I was happy to oblige actually.  There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane.  They then unloaded their luggage.
 
We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happen, when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!!  Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it).  The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it!  Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal.  She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men.  The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston .  The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent “we and our crew will not fly this plane!”  After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane.  5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.
 
Again…..this is where I had had enough!!!  I got up and asked “What the hell is going on!?!?”  I was told to take my seat.  They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly.  I said “I’m getting off this plane”.  The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off.  (now I’m mad!)  I said “I am a grown man who bought this ticket, whose time is mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I’m going through that door with you under my arm!!  But I am going through that door!!”  And I heard a voice behind me say “so am I”.  Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same.  Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement.  I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not.  Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled.  I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm.  I got here at 12:30am.
 
Look up the date.  Flight #297 Atlanta to Houston .
 
If this wasn’t a dry run, I don’t know what one is.  The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.
 
I’m telling this to you because I want you to know….
The threat is real.  I saw it with my own eyes….
 
-Tedd Petruna
 
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 12:06:08 AM »
There are dozens of these letterrs on the web. 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297.asp

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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 02:39:39 AM »
wow!  so they're seeing if people will just sit in their seats and cry instead of fighting back... I hope they keep getting results like that but some crew is gonna back down later after litigation.  once they punk a crew or three they'll have the audacity to go further.  how can we stop it?

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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 03:03:29 AM »
Satans disciples are among us daily, simply biding their time to strike. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 03:05:32 AM »
Why else would they be here ?
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 08:59:34 AM »
Courageous Americans, once again, responding to the threat. I applaud them. Stay vigilant at train stations, bridges, power stations, airports, and let them know we WILL respond to threats.

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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 09:16:39 AM »
i  am not  allowed  to carry  my gun on the  plane
so  i don't fly

i  did  carry on a plane a few years  ago
private  charter....i am not  afraid to fly


i  got that same letter from a friend a few days ago
my  friend  worked  at nasa  too
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 09:26:33 AM »
This not only sounds bogus but has virtually no supporting evidence aside from an email being passed around that this ever happened. 

They've essentially already used the "hijack the plane" card.  Future attacks are likely going to be made using different venues. 

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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2009, 09:33:17 AM »
Would it not be a felony to disrupt a flight in this way ?
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 09:56:30 AM »
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2009, 11:20:37 AM »
Let's face it folks, most people in this country are a bunch of sheep.  I remember being told when I was a kid by the teachers in school that if a situation arose where someone became violant and told you to do something, do it.  If you did not, you ran the risk of getting hurt or killed. 

Fortunately my folks taught me just the opposite.  My Grandma always told me the strongest defense was a stronger offense.

The Ait Force also taught me to think independently.  To analyze the situation and react accordingly.  Because there would not always be someone there to take care of me, therefore I had to do it myself.

Many people in this country have lost that ability, and will act like sheep and do as told no matter what the cost.
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2009, 11:35:58 AM »
Sounds like MI6 OR THE CIA is going to strike again.

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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 11:47:08 AM »
Sounds like MI6 OR THE CIA is going to strike again.

OK, I'll bite. To what are you referring?
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2009, 12:20:06 PM »
Sounds like MI6 OR THE CIA is going to strike again.

OK, I'll bite. To what are you referring?


 

 
JULY 7TH 2005 LONDON BOMBINGS
London Bombing ringleader, Haroon Rashid Aswat - double agent for MI6?

new criminologist | 23rd August 05 | original url: http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/print.asp?id=1124824797


Abu Hamza and Haroon Aswat

In a lengthy statement that will send shockwaves around the world, John Loftus, a terrorism expert and a former prosecutor for the US Justice Department, has publically revealed that the so called mastermind of the 7/7 London Bombings, Haroon Rashid Aswat, is a British 'Intelligence Asset'.

A TNC US-based source has sent us extraordinary fully verifiable information, along with a filmed interview during which Loftus makes his accusations.

We are double-checking with our contact - a former long-time colleague of former FBI Counter Terrorism Special Agent and Al-Qaeda hunter, John O'Neill, who died in the 9/11 Twin Towers disaster.

Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and terror expert, John Loftus, revealed that the so-called Al-Muhajiroun group, based in London had formed during the Kosovo crisis, during which Fundamentalist Muslim Leaders (Or what is now referred to as Al Qaeda) were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.

Loftus stated that "...back in the late 1990s, the leaders all worked for British intelligence in Kosovo. Believe it or not, British intelligence actually hired some Al-Qaeda guys to help defend the Muslim rights in Albania and in Kosovo. That's when Al-Muhajiroun got started."

In a blistering attack on MI6 John Loftus went on to spell out that British Intelligence and the US Dept of Justice had protected Haroon Rashid Aswat:

"Back in 1999 he came to America. The Justice Department wanted to indict him in Seattle because him and his buddy were trying to set up a terrorist training school in Oregon... we've just learned that the headquarters of the US Justice Department ordered the Seattle prosecutors not to touch Aswat... apparently Aswat was working for British intelligence."

This story has been around for some weeks, the TNC reports, but it has always been 'dressed up' as a slight 'difference of opinion' between the FBI and MI6, with the Home Office claiming that they have been reluctant to hand Aswat over to the US authorities because he is a British national.

But, senior US intelligence officials are said to be fuming, claiming that everytime they got close to detaining Aswat, wherever he is in the world, he slips through the net.

Loftus claims in an unprecedented attack on MI6 that this is startling and again highlights how Al Qaeda exists as an organized body only where the intelligence services have created, funded and employed it. Loftus points out that several weeks before the London Bombings, Aswat was again located by the South African Intel agency but was again allowed to slip away, this time to London:

"He was a British intelligence plant. So all of a sudden he disappears. He's in South Africa. We think he's dead; we don't know he's down there. Last month the South African Secret Service come across the guy. He's alive...the Brits know that the CIA wants to get a hold of Haroon. So what happens? He takes off again, goes right to London. He isn't arrested when he lands, he isn't arrested when he leaves... He's on the watch list. The only reason he could get away with that was if he was working for British intelligence. He was a wanted man."

Loftus' information is also backed up by the New York Times and CNN who reported on this incident, however, the internet link to the London Independent's article has mysteriously disappeared.

If proven, the ramifications of John Loftus's claims - and he is supported by many FBI agents - could be that the London bombings could have been prevented if Haroon Aswat had been taken into custody long ago.

TNC's US source writes:

"It is now believed that British born Haroon Rashid Aswat was the brains behind the London attacks on July 7th in which 56 died and 700 were wounded. During the investigation of the London attacks the British police and American intelligence sources were able to determine that Aswat had received on his portable telephone a score of calls from the four suspects in the July 7th London attacks. The Times asserts that Aswat stated that he had been a bodyguard of Osama Bin Laden. This would have made him the 2nd highest- ranking Al Qaeda member in Britain. Haroon Rashid Aswat was an aide to the cleric, Abu Hamza Al-Masri. Abu Hamza was listed by USA intelligence sources as a suspected terrorist financier because of links to the Islamic Army of Aden, an Al Qaeda-associated group and the 2000 attack on the U.S. warship the USS Cole in Yemen. For 10 years Aswat had associated with militant Muslim groups and had been to Khalden, the Al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan. Haroon Rashid Aswat is also known to have ties to South Africa and Johannesburg and suspected of involvement in planning the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen.

"Aswat had long been the object of US and British intelligence surveillance. Haroon Aswat had entered to Zambia on July 6, 2005. He was arrested on July 20, 2005 in Lusaka for "terrorist activities" and "infringements with the rules of immigration".

Loftus added:

"This is the guy [Aswat], and what's really embarrassing is that the entire British police are out chasing him, and one wing of the British government, MI6 or the British Secret Service, has been hiding him. And this has been a real source of contention between the CIA, the Justice Department, and Britain.he is a double agent.

The CIA and the Israelis all accused MI6 of letting all these terrorists live in London not because they're getting Al-Qaeda information, but for appeasement. It was one of those you leave us alone, we leave you alone kind of things."

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Re: Flight Cancelled
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CIA Linked to ’86 Bombing

BERLIN TV TIES CIA, MOSSAD TO BERLIN TERROR ATTACK

German public television has made a compelling case that the CIA and Mossad were involved in the bombing of a disco in Berlin in 1986 to provide a rationale for attacking Libya.
 
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By Fred Lingel
 
Fifteen years after the terrorist bombing of a disco in Berlin, a German court has found four individuals guilty of the attack which killed two American servicemen and a Turkish woman.

But a documentary on German public television aired in 1998 disputes the case brought by German authorities against the group, presenting chilling evidence that the main suspects in the 1986 La Belle disco bombing worked for American and Israeli intelligence.

The bombing gave President Ronald Reagan the pretext to order the bombing of Libya. The bombs hit Libyan leader Mu am mar Qaddafi’s home, killing at least 30, including one of his infant children. Qaddafi was uninjured.

The TV documentary said its findings are significant today because the bombing of Libya is being cited as a precedent for America’s war on terror in Afghanistan and other countries around the world.

A Berlin court reached a verdict on four suspects on Nov. 14. A fifth individual was found not guilty.

Verena Chanaa, a 42-year-old German, accused of detonating the bomb, was found guilty of murder and sentenced to 14 years in prison.

Yassir Chraidi, a 42-year-old Palestinian, was convicted of multiple counts of attempted murder and accessory to murder. Musbah Eter, a 44-year-old Libyan, and Ali Chanaa, a 42-year-old Lebanese-born German who is Verena Chanaa’s ex-husband were also found guilty of the same charges.

Chraidi was sentenced to 14 years. Eter and Ali Chanaa to 12 years each.
The fifth defendant, 36-year-old Andrea Haeusler, was found not guilty for lack of evidence.

However, Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen (ZDF television) conducted its own investigation. According to the World Socialist Web Site (www.wsws.org), the documentary concluded:

• The lead defendant, Chraidi, is possibly innocent and is being used as a scapegoat by German and Ameri can intelligence services.

• At least one defendant, Eter, has been working for the CIA for many years, according to recently released East German and Soviet intelligence documents.

• Key suspects, who may have been involved in the bombing or had knowledge of it, have not appeared in court because they are being protected by Western intelligence services.

• At least one of the people who never appeared, Mohammed Amairi, is an agent of the Mossad, Israel’s secret service.

CIA ASSET

Chraidi, one of the men accused of masterminding the bombing, was a driver at the Libyan embassy in East Berlin in 1986. He later moved to Lebanon and was extradited to Germany in May 1996.

ZDF-TV interviewed the two Lebanese responsible for Chraidi’s extradition: the former public prosecutor Mounif Queidat and his deputy, Mrad Azoury. Both said German authorities used deceit to obtain Chraidi’s extradition.
Azoury said he found no evidence that Chraidi was involved in the attack but only “hints.”

“The Americans were behind this demand,” Queidat said. “This was obvious. They spurred the Germans to speed up the extradition.”

A Berlin judge found the evidence so weak he threatened to release Chraidi. At this point, another man was brought into the case who “was obviously supposed to be spared by the prosecution until then,” ZDF-TV said.

On Sept. 9, 1996, the day the judge had threatened to release Chraidi, Berlin public prosecutor Detlev Mehlis, Berlin police inspector Uwe Wilhelms and a “Mr. Win ter stein” of the German Federal Intelligence Service met Musbah Eter in the Mediterranean island state of Malta.

The meeting had been arranged by German intelligence, which maintains close connections to the CIA. Eter was running an international business in Malta, which, ZDF-TV said, served as a cover for CIA operations.

Eter was wanted by German law enforcement on mur der charges. Eter was offered immunity in exchange for testifying against Chraidi. The next day, Eter testified at the German embassy, the warrant against him was scrapped and he was allowed to return to Germany.

According to the German program, Eter was a key figure in the disco bombing.

At the time of the attack, Eter worked for the Libyan embassy in East Berlin but visited the U.S. embassy frequently. This highly unusual fact was uncovered when communist intelligence notes were discovered af ter the fall of East Germany extensively documenting Eter’s visitations.

The German reporters tracked down another key figure in the terrorist act, Mohammed Amairi.

Amairi lived in Germany but had left for Norway when a warrant was issued for his arrest in 1990. ZDF-TV interviewed Amairi in Bergen. His lawyer, Odd Drev land, said Amairi “was a Mossad man.” The Mos sad, he said, had the charges dropped.

“These secret service intrigues present a task for the Berlin court that is almost insoluble,” the TV documentary concluded. “But one thing is certain: the American legend of Libyan state terrorism can no longer be maintained.

“It may come as a shock to many Americans, all the more so given the utterly venal and lying role of the U.S. media, but U.S. intelligence services are well versed in the most unscrupulous and bloody methods,” the German report says. No analysis of terror attacks carried out by Islamic groups can “rule out the possibility of a provocation, organized either directly or indirectly” by U.S. or Israeli intelligence.

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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2009, 01:03:54 PM »
Being an asset to an agency does not mean the agency is controlling and directing your activities ... we call those agents.

Take for example an informant to law enforcement ... may still be involved in independently operated criminal activity, with or without the knowledge of his handler on the force. The handler wants the asset's boss, meanwhile his asset is conducting white slavery. Doesn't mean the officer is running white slavery.

Depending on the level of access one's asset has to your target, his manager runs the risk, particularly when dealing with terrorist cells, of his asset conducting terrorist attacks while still serving as an asset. None of this implies control, direction, planning or funding of the terrorist act on the part of the controlling agency. You gotta build a stronger case than simple association when you're dealing with the intel community ... strange bedfellows.
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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 06:15:26 PM »
take out the central power of the organization and it'll reform into a newly configured whole... maybe branch into multiple organizations, maybe change operational tactics, maybe a more blood-thirsty guy will step up to lead.... it's not ethical but it might be needed at times.  as a tactical means to destroy american enemies I grudgingly agree with the practice, however it's in violation of transparent government and only opens the door to more corruption.  therefore it must go.  kennedy got shot over this kind of stuff- liberal or not it seems he tried to close the door on the cia, but instead of being left outside the whitehouse they made sure he never went back in.  the shadow organization has got to be shut down.

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Re: Flight Cancelled
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2009, 12:34:53 AM »
Let us digress back to the topic.
It seems to me that there is enough evidence to show that there was more too thist story than accounts originally given.
One an eyewitness and another, who was not an eyeball, but still gives information that shows more than originally stated.
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