that is the thing about those "neverwas-es"; they are really good about taking, not too good when it comes to giving. they are the first to complain, the last to ever offer a solution. they enjoy their freedom provided to them by veterans, but are the first to attack and demean other's experiences and service without a seconds hesitation. they are problem seekers, not problems solvers. you can sum it all up by just saying that people like c4 are all about the "me, me, I, I, gimme, gimme, gimme; what can i screw someone else out of for my benefit" type mindset.