Author Topic: Encore Barrel (Read 1987 times)

terryfcampbell · « **on:** September 09, 2003, 07:59:02 AM »

Hi Folks
I may be opening a can of worms, but what caliber encore barrel would you all suggest for a long range (500 yds.) deer rifle? :cb2:

longwinters · « **Reply #1 on:** September 09, 2003, 11:51:46 AM »

I'm keeping my can opener in the drawer. I would think something along the lines of a 7MM or 300Win. I know there are bigger cal out there, but I dont think I would like the recoil :biggun: . . . especially in an Encore.

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hyltoto · « **Reply #2 on:** September 09, 2003, 02:04:27 PM »

If I remember my P O Ackley. Using that guide you would need at least a hot 338 win mag. I have a 375 H&H with the limbsaver recoil pad and handloding the 250 grain bullets recoil is ok, before putting the pad on a 300 win mag was excruciatingly painful even with the 150 grain loads. My advice is don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes...

onesonek · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2003, 02:05:54 AM »

Hi Terry,
First I want to say that, I want you you to take this as CONSTRUCTIVE advice. I don't like to see ultra long range shots on big game. Too many variables, beyond 300 yds. If gust of wind catches the bullet, or the animal takes a step. The clean shot is gone, at 500. I do long range shots on pest and varmints, too keep my shooting skills honed. But I believe, working on hunting skills,is more important. I don't intend to criticize,but will discourage long range shots on game, any chance I get.
Other's here and elsewhere, have brought up the Encore's recoil. Because of it's stock design, (and weight) it does kick, and more so with cartridges that have what's needed for 500 yd big game. And a hard recoiling rifle, generally isn't conducive to good shot placement.
Everybody has their own way, and desires. I love my Encore, it's versatility is unequalled.

jlk · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2003, 02:25:40 AM »

I am partial to my .257 Weatherby Mag. It is a real flat shooting rifle and very accurate.

hyltoto · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2003, 09:26:20 AM »

The question is how many seconds, minutes or hours it takes to die. And therefore if you will be able to find it. Practice, use the best bullet you can buy, and enough caliber to get the job done.

longwinters · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2003, 12:00:11 PM »

The Sims (limbsaver) recoil pad is excellent for any Encore. It will noticably reduce felt recoil. I too would question excessively long shots at game. But get the recoil pad. . . it is worth the $29.00

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agdexter · « **Reply #7 on:** September 11, 2003, 05:42:29 PM »

Do not hunt deer at 500 yards. It is not sporting, is disrespectful to the animal you hunt and simply cannot be reliably done. First you would have to choose some super barn burning caliber, work up a hot load and then beat the hell out of your shoulder sighting it in at 250 yards, so you can hold two feet over at 500 yards. At this point you should have a hell of a flinch developed. If you were good enough to get all the shots on a six inch pie plate on a day with absolutely no wind, shooting on level ground set in a bench rest, you would then have to enter the real world of hunting. In that world, the wind blows, the shots are up and down, they are shoot off-hand and what you are shooting at moves. All of which makes it darn near impossible to do. What you end up with is horribly wounded animals. You are simply stretchng the distance too far. Keep it in the 250 range as a good balance, maybe if everything is perfect you can push it occassionally to 400. I wouldn't.

Sean · « **Reply #8 on:** September 12, 2003, 05:52:57 PM »

First you had better hope that the barrel will shoot well enough for that kind of target shooting. I love my Encores but I am going to be putting a nice heavy barreled Bolt gun together for my 500 yd Target Shooting. Sean

terryfcampbell · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2003, 02:40:14 AM »

Thanks for the replies and the advice is well taken. The chances of a long range shot where I hunt in Ky. are slim to none. I'm mainly curious as to whether or not I could shoot that distance.

onesonek · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2003, 03:34:43 PM »

Anybody can shoot that distance, whether you can hit what you're shooting at is the ?? My suguestion, is to get a rifle you can shoot well. In my opionion 7mm-08 is about optimum out to 300 yds, for deer. Shoot at 6" plates from various positions, at various distance's. That will tell your ability.

onesonek

randycarter · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2003, 04:09:44 PM »

just a thought i like the 300 win mag and i also suggeest a muzzle break. yeha i know before you all start they are loud but you know what i challenge anyone to bench shoot their deer rifle with me youll giv ein long before i do to pain. so as for that i am said and done, but i would also liek to say i have taken on several ocasions deer at a range of 400 to 450 yards and i consider myself a good shot but on the other hand i spend the time doing the testing and i have seen what in my opinion is an expert shot far beyond my skills shoot a stock browning abolt 300 short mag over 900 yards and flatten a deer, granted he was holding over it and it was more a pot shot than anything else i just say this NOT supporting longe range hail maries but as an example that these guns ARE effective at LONG ranges. just shoot what you are comfortable with.

JJFly · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2003, 07:34:01 PM »

In some locations the "Bean Field" shot is what you get 90% of the time or more. For those that "NEED" the meat on the table the question isn't about sport but food. If that is the case, a 7mm Mag or 300 Mag of your choice is more than enough gun to do the job at 500yds, with correct bullets construction and PERFECT bullet placement. I think your chances of putting meat on the table are far better at inside 200yds, but... I've also done plenty of bench shooting and hunting in N. Carolina where the sand bag on the hood and a good trigger were standard issue with the long range rifle to get the Venison in my freezer. Shots of 300-350yds happened plenty. Killed my fair share. Is there sport in that, probably not, especially not for the deer... he had no way of knowing I was there. It was certainly a challenge though and the farmer was most appreciative of my culling efforts to minimize crop damage. If you're out for the enjoyment of the hunt, which I do occasionally to... an iron sighted 35Rem that limits your shot to <100yds on a good day (because you can't see 50yds into the woods) is far more sporting than the other option. The meat goes in the freezer first though, and THAT is why I have so many TC barrels... uhm, well, er, ah, That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :wink:

SingleShotShorty · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2003, 03:27:44 AM »

My vote would be either the 300 Win Mag or 7mm Rem Mag, or maybe one of the short mags

Elkman23 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2003, 11:48:28 AM »

I personally have used a 257 Wby with Barnes x, in the Sandhills of Nebraska. Last year I harvested a nice Muley at 461 yds with this combo and would not hunt deer with anything else. However a person must take the time to know your rifles Ballistics and how it reacts in the wind. Best of luck with what you decide.

Encore28 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 23, 2003, 06:21:11 PM »

I also would vote for the .257 Weatherby Mag but would also consider the 7mm STW.
Just my humble opinion................ :grin:
Encore28