Author Topic: He better be glad he does not live near me! (Read 840 times)

Redtail1949 · « **on:** December 18, 2009, 07:11:32 AM »

Christmas Display Showing Jesus Murdering Santa Under Fire in California
Friday, December 18, 2009

Print ShareThisA California neighborhood reportedly is up in arms after a resident decorated his lawn with a depiction of Jesus shooting Santa Claus.

The controversial Christmas display shows Jesus pointing a double-barrel shotgun at Santa's dead body as Rudolph lays sprawled across the hood of a pickup truck nearby, WNCT reported.

Neighbors in Nipomo, Calif., called for the display to be removed, but its maker Ron Lake called it a work of art — in which Santa represents the commercialization of Christmas, the station reported.

"It's an expression of my repressed creativity," Lake told WNCT.

Police said that because Lake built the display on private property they cannot force him to take it down. Some residents plan to start a petition, the station reported.

Spanky · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2009, 07:15:45 AM »

Just another A-hole looking for his 15 minutes of fame.

Spanky

briarpatch · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2009, 08:06:54 AM »

He has every right!! Every right!!! If they (who ever they is) can move his they will move yours.

Heather · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2009, 09:16:11 AM »

Good for him! Tasteless yes...a crime nope...leave em alone!

Heather

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2009, 09:22:12 AM »

yep his right all right no crime that for sure...does not matter to me he needs his .......

Sourdough · « **Reply #5 on:** December 18, 2009, 09:26:55 AM »

Using Jesus was wrong and a big mistake!

While I can see his point, and understand what he is trying to say. And I think many are missing his point. I do say he is wrong using Jesus as the shooter. By using Jesus he has made it so offensive, people are totally missing the point.

My interpretation:
What he is trying to say in his own sick way is that many people are using Christ birth as a reason for commercialization. He thinks that Santa should be shot down, and people should get back to the reason for the season, Christ birth.

Think about it, did not Christ take up a stick and run the money lenders out of the temple? Christ was real, Santa is fictional. If Christ was alive today, and living by todays standards, I could see him taking a shotgun and shooting down a fictional cheractor that many people are worshiping.

Don't want to start a revolt here guys, just trying to look at it from both sides. Take a deep breath, sit down and give it some thought. "The reason for the season".

While he has the right to put it up, I think he should take it down, too offensive to people.

Now if he put a sign that it was Mohammad shooting Santa, it would make world wide news and he would be a hero in the muslim world.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2009, 10:07:11 AM »

sometimes i like to rationalize as to why someone did this or that....this time i am not interested in why...i just know if he has some political or other statement to make he better find another way. i do not care he needs his.....

dukkillr · « **Reply #7 on:** December 18, 2009, 10:49:15 AM »

Quote from: Heather on December 18, 2009, 09:16:11 AM

Good for him! Tasteless yes...a crime nope...leave em alone!

Heather

+1

Funny how quickly people bail on freedom of speech when they find it offensive...

ironglow · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2009, 10:54:25 AM »

I'm all for freedom of speech. Were I in his neighborhood and on his street, I would have a display of my own featuring a obviously clueless ape, scratching his head..with an arrow saying, " Don't miss the putrid, brainless display down the street".

rex6666 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2009, 11:01:41 AM »

Quote from: Sourdough on December 18, 2009, 09:26:55 AM

Using Jesus was wrong and a big mistake!

While I can see his point, and understand what he is trying to say. And I think many are missing his point. I do say he is wrong using Jesus as the shooter. By using Jesus he has made it so offensive, people are totally missing the point.

My interpretation:
What he is trying to say in his own sick way is that many people are using Christ birth as a reason for commercialization. He thinks that Santa should be shot down, and people should get back to the reason for the season, Christ birth.

Think about it, did not Christ take up a stick and run the money lenders out of the temple? Christ was real, Santa is fictional. If Christ was alive today, and living by todays standards, I could see him taking a shotgun and shooting down a fictional cheractor that many people are worshiping.

Don't want to start a revolt here guys, just trying to look at it from both sides. Take a deep breath, sit down and give it some thought. "The reason for the season".

While he has the right to put it up, I think he should take it down, too offensive to people.

Now if he put a sign that it was Mohammad shooting Santa, it would make world wide news and he would be a hero in the muslim world.

I think you are right Sourgough don't like the way he went about it but maybe
he is like some others and just fed up. He is getting attention.

ironglow · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2009, 11:18:42 AM »

I agree with the over commercialization of CHRISTmas, but he did a tasteless display.

williamlayton · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:15:36 PM »

My first thought is God does not need defending.
The Gospel does.
In a hair brained kinda way, I kind of agree with him, except Christ does not need a gun, just a word.
Blessings

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 18, 2009, 12:34:38 PM »

yall are probably all right. yet i look at it the same as if someone was to insult my wife. he may have a right to speak his thoughts but i would still try to knock his teeth out!

Brett · « **Reply #13 on:** December 18, 2009, 04:28:52 PM »

I believe that he has the right to display his "art" on his private property. However, I think it would be a more affective statement if it were Santa holding the shotgun. To me that would better make the point that commercialism has killed the true meaning of Christmas. JMTCW

Swampman · « **Reply #14 on:** December 18, 2009, 04:44:48 PM »

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion", impeding the free exercise of religion, infringing on the freedom of speech and infringing on the freedom of the press. In the 20th century, the Supreme Court held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment applies the First Amendment to each state, including any local government.

Squib · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2009, 10:02:59 PM »

if his neighbors have a problem with his first and fourth, then they can test his second

if they don't like his message and want to seize his property, they can find his real shotguns too

now with that being said, I agree with sourdough: he's probably a jerk, but he's right. I am not all that religious but I still try to respect it. I am disgusted by people not venerating jesus christ during christmas. santa and trees and such are FINE, as long as there is a cross in there with it (on top of the tree, on the wall next to the tree or something). kids can have all their fun with the "magic" fat guy and reindeer and all, get their presents and such, but some jesus needs to get introduced at some point. my family (patriarch is a former deacon) had us read from the bible before opening presents, and there were a bunch of camels and arab looking guys around a barn-thing along with snowmen and candy-canes.

williamlayton · « **Reply #16 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:50:00 AM »

Statements of faith come in different form---look at all the rligious tracts.
This is a statement of faith--in an oddball way and completely out of context--
and as such, can't be objected too--in the context of should be allowed.
I think it in poor taste without much objectivity and can be done in in a more effective manner.
In years past I made a cross out of 4X6's and put it in the front yard with a simple spotlight on it.
My way of objecting to the commercialization of Christmas.
Blessings

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 19, 2009, 05:51:34 AM »

well there was a time i would have advocated a little fire one night.. but i ll go with williams take on it..
it is thier right .. god,, i don t think condems ignorance..if he does its his business to take care of it .
he leaves the door to salvation open ,,an we are all his loved children.. his eye is on the sparrow.. slim

m-g Willy · « **Reply #18 on:** December 19, 2009, 04:18:34 PM »

Could this be considered some kind of a hate crime thing?
NAW!
To be classed as anything to do with HATE it would have to show a satanic muslim in a bad light!

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 19, 2009, 04:43:43 PM »

i stand corrected..after i cooled off...lol

to me i an just sick of stuff like that belittling jesus portraying him as a muderer christmas an christmas traditions. yes it was in very bad taste to say the least.

guns jesus murder santa and rudolph it still makes me mad.. what if one of them has been having sex with rudolf..would that have been ok as an expression of his art?

it is just to far..legal yes revolting just the same. of course i am sure the guy was another attention seeker wanted the limelight no matter how he had to get it.

everyone probably feels that christmas has gone to the money pit and i do too. better ways absolutely.

i say he still needs his ..... but he does have his rights....lol

nw_hunter · « **Reply #20 on:** December 19, 2009, 07:36:43 PM »

Quote from: Heather on December 18, 2009, 09:16:11 AM

Good for him! Tasteless yes...a crime nope...leave em alone!

Heather

I don't think it's good of him Heather, But he has the right to do it.
"No doubt" He is a thoughtless uncaring person, that has no respect, but what's new?

Christmas is A Christian celebration remembering the birth of Christ. As a Christian I celebrate it, but don't expect Atheists,Muslims, Jews. Hindu's and other denominations to do so, but I would hope they would respect those that do. I don't celebrate Kwanzaa or Hanuka , but I will respect those that do, and not degrade the symbols of their faith.