What did Ben Nelson get for selling out?

[Redtail1949]

carthage...my oh my small world...tatum all them little ole places..

[ironglow]

Among the other concessionsgiven to Sen. Nelson, the state of Nebraska will receive millions more in federal medicaid funding for its poor, uninsured citizens.

Yes, I just heard that the low-lifes guarranteed nelson that medicaid would not EVER go up in his State & the other States would pay for those increases.

  I would suppose old Ben has already considered that the the Dems may not stay as top dog...and figured if he can get just a couple more years in the senate, collect hgis golden pension..then the voters of Nebraska can go to h _ _ _, while he goes to Arizona.
  Obviously, when the Obamanites lose power, all states will likely pay the same..if govt medicine gets adopted.

  Sagegrouse.. seems to be grousing that the local representative of the TEA party in Carthage, TX had heart surgery via medicare. To point up the difference with the govt plan , ask this question..Did the TEA party rep work & pay taxes all his life or did he just sponge off the rest of us ?  ...Makes a difference..

[magooch]

It seems to me that some folks have a pretty short memory when they say that the Republicans did nothing about health-care.  When they had a very tenuous majority, they addressed the issue of prescription drugs which was the big deal at the time.  And as others have said, there was an attempt to do something about liability insurance.  For the most part, Dumbycrats opposed anything that might affect lawyers ability to rip the system for millions, i.e., John Edwards.

Republicans also helped to establish "Medical Savings Accounts."  That was a step in the right direction, but like a lot of things, it didn't go far enough and the limits are too low.

Yes, it is true that Republicans do not favour government run health-care and thus have no overall comprehensive plan.  They also do not have a plan to provide everyone with food, or a roof over their heads, or transportation, or anything else that is supposed to be a personal responsibility.

What the Republicans did do was to cut our income taxes very substantially and if people used the money that they saved in taxes for health-care, then they've done far more than any Dumbycrat has ever done.  Of course, that would require the application of personal responsiblity and we sure wouldn't want that.

[Casull]

Magooch, now there you go confusing the lefties (and those that hate both sides) with facts.  Shame on you.   

[jhm]

MUTUAL OF OMAHA will probably reduce their political contribution to Ol BEN.   Jim

[sagegrouse715]

No, I am not grousing about the TP head having his surgery paid by Medicare.  Just that while he is opposed to a national health option for others,  he is receiving the benefits of national health insurance in his Medicare.

[sagegrouse715]

How does one defining "sponging off the rest of us?"  Approximately two years ago, the CEO of United Heath was given $800 million in stock options as a reward for his fine work plus more stock options  which he illegally backdated to reap higher profits and another $600 million.  In the meantime, my health insurance premiums went up 30% in one year.  I guess some find this a better system.  To me, this is a pretty big sponge.

[ironglow]

 Sagegrouse;
  Yep! spongers on the top and bottom of the barrel.
    If the TP head had heart surgery through medicare, he was using a legitimate program.  He  may have just opposed "national health option" for others, simply because it is a bogus, government power grab that will reduce health care..that is the way millions see it !

   Back to subject..Ben Nelson;
   Here are some quotes from Nelson that show great courage...
 
 A) "My character and good name are in my own keeping. life with disgrace is dreadful."

 B) "The bravest man feels anxiety "circa praecordia" as he enters battle, but he dreads disgrace more" !

 C) "Thank God, I have done my duty" !

   Those are quotes from Nelson...Admiral Horatio Nelson....
                                       Quotes of courage by that other Nelson..have  by now.."Ben" things of the past.

   Now that old Ben has sold out for a "Nebraska rollover", there is a quote by the real hero named Nelson, that Ben can use;

         "First gain the victory; then make the best use of it you can" !   (Admiral horatio Nelson)

  

  

[Redtail1949]

been lookin aroung at nebraska papers to see the response to rollover ben. i was pleasantly surprised to see that many are very upset with what he has done. even though he is getting millions upon millions for his state. they really are opposed to what he did. that makes me feel better that they feel that way.

[ironglow]

  I can see where many would feel that way. The "deal" which Ben struck with Dingy Harry, would give Nebraska many million$$ of benefits...paid for by taxpayers of the other 49 states.
   Now, there are some folks who will take any $$ they can grab...whether by hook or by crook. But I tend to think most have a better sense of fair play than that ! I am sure there are many good folks in Nebraska who like myself , have never slopped at the government trough and don't plan to start now...even if their own senator "won" these benefits for them.

   Not EVERYBODY will accept any cheap shot points given by a crooked referee in baseball, football, tiddly-winks or horse shoes...but some Will..