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BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« on: January 09, 2010, 02:54:27 PM »
Anyone tried these in the Handi 500? Hunman55

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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2010, 03:02:26 PM »
I thought I remembered an article that included using black powder or a substitute and was able to find it. Here's an exerpt from that article:
"The .500 S&W may be a handgun cartridge, however it definitely qualifies as a rifle cartridge. In fact it might be looked upon as a modernization of the old .50-70 Govt. rifle cartridge and I tried to use it with both black powder and Hodgdon's Triple-Seven. I did not have the proper bullets, which should be relatively soft and lubricated with a lube specially made for black powder use, such as SPG or Lyman's Black Powder Gold. Using the bullet I did have, the hard-cast Dry Creek 440-grain Keith bullet over 30 grains by weight of Triple-Seven, a load which fills the case right to the bottom on the bullet without compression, gives 1,120 fps but the desired accuracy is not there. Promising, but not enough, so the old-style loads will have to wait until I come up with the right bullet." - Guns Magazine, Jan, 2007 by John Taffin 

Here's a link to the full article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_1_53/ai_n16866654/

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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 02:05:23 AM »
  Link to the blackpowder cartridge load data for Blackhorn 209 might help you.  I have never tried the stuff in a cartidge, just in a MZ and it works fine in that application with the right breech plug.  It is expensive.

http://www.blackhorn209.com/files/pdf/b209blackpowdercartridgedata.pdf

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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 02:25:42 AM »
Thanks, guys. I read both links. Hunman55

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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 04:42:06 AM »
I've used all three in other loads and Triple Seven is a lot cleaner.

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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2010, 05:08:19 AM »
If I stuffed a .50 caliber sabot down the barrel and loaded a .500 Handi with a blackpowder blank (like a .25ACP breechplug), would that be considered a muzzleloader?

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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2010, 09:02:23 AM »
i like the blackhorn 209 in my 45/90 and 45/110 sharps dt's
777 works fine to... both are much perfered over standard bp..
#1 reason is a breeze to clean. but all shoot with same accuracy
with there givin load charges.
i have not used pyrodex in the sharps, but i have used it with very good results
in my .50 ss huntsman along with the others you mentioned.
all of them will make you smile... when you touch the trigger !!!! ;D
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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2010, 09:22:40 AM »
i like the blackhorn 209 in my 45/90 and 45/110 sharps dt's
777 works fine to... both are much perfered over standard bp..
#1 reason is a breeze to clean. but all shoot with same accuracy
with there givin load charges.
i have not used pyrodex in the sharps, but i have used it with very good results
in my .50 ss huntsman along with the others you mentioned.
all of them will make you smile... when you touch the trigger !!!! ;D

The Blackhorn won't make you smile when you pay for it ;D

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Re: BP, Pyrodex, or 777
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2010, 09:28:25 AM »
yep, your right.. it is kinda high.
but ya only frown once when ya buy it, and then ya smile alot
when shoot'n and clean'n  ;D
sea-ya.....
in tha meen time, i'm wait'n for tha  7th trumpet ta sound !!!

gotta big green tractor ana diesel truck, my idea of heaven's chasin whitetail bucks and asa country boy, you know i can survive............

hey boy, hit this mason jar one time...
burn ya lil'bit did'nt it. ya ever been snipe hunt'n ?  come on...

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