Am I allowed to post a GunBroker listing for ......

[shotgunner]

Not sure if Greybeard allows this post, please let me know if this is not allowed.  Shotgunner

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[Graybeard]

No I do not allow this and if you'd read the rules it would be obvious I don't. This is now two such basically classifieds listed on discussion forums. DO NOT cause me to find another.

You are a dealer if you wish to use this site to sell your merchandise you'll have to pay to do so just like other businesses must. The minimum fee to do so is $200 per year to make posts like this one was to sell your merchandise.

[shotgunner]

Greybeard

Again, I am sorry for the mistake. You could call me a dealer. At this point I am not making enough money at it to allow much of an advertising budget. I hope to retire in a year and run the skeet and trap fields and gun store full time. At that point I might like to talk to you about a sponsorship. Right now I have 2 kids in college and am just trying to get buy. All of the money from gun sales goes back into the business, and it is not a big business as of yet. You and I have always operated on a basis of mutual respect, I hope that holding my FFL does not change that. Without gun dealers non of us would have what we want. Shotgunner

[Graybeard]

I do understand but holding an FFL does in fact make you "in the business" so to that effect it does change your status here. It means I can no longer allow you to sell the items you have as merchandise here for free. It's only free to members selling off items held for personal use no longer wanted by them.

Any member who holds an FFL automatically is classified as a gun dealer by BATFE and if they were to find you weren't they'd pull the license. So you can't sell here the kinda things a gun dealer would normally have as stock.

Non FFL items owned and held by you for personal use that you no longer want or need can still be sold but new stock and guns/ammo and such that is the stock in trade of a gun dealer you no longer can until you decide to become a paid advertiser.

No there is no change in our relationship but still all must comply with the rules and once a person takes on the mantel of FFL holder it does have to change their Classifieds status here.

[shotgunner]

Greybeard

Fair enough. This is your site and your rules. I deal in mostly used guns and small items from auctions. I have a large number of personal guns but as they will cross my books if they are sold it will not be here, nor will I list and of the reloading equipment or supplies, as you have no idea if they are my personal property or if I bought them the day before. I have used the site mostly for sharing info on a great number of topics from skeet to cast bullets to trapping to duck hunting to custom rifles and on and on. I will continue to do so, as long as I can do so without ruffling any feathers. Perhaps in the future if I have a question I will ask in another way, and not leave a post. Shotgunner

[Graybeard]

I always prefer such questions to be via PM but my answers will be the same whether via PM or on open forum. Via PM just keeps third parties out of it.

[shotgunner]

Greybeard

That works for me, often some 3rd party gets involved and only makes things worse.

       I was off today and it stopped raining around noon. I had to bury my good riding horse this weekend and was a little stressed. I decided to take my son up on the hill and shoot some skeet. He is a lefty and I just got him a new barrel and stock for his auto. We each shot 50 shells, I did miss one and it was a low 7. It is amazing how much better those puffs of smoke make you feel. The kid shot well, might want to adjust the comb a little, he did not miss any of the difficult shots. I feel refreshed and a whole lot better about the world.

Thank you for being steadfast and reasonable. It is one reason your site has been successful. Shotgunner

[Graybeard]

Low 7 is a heart breaker to miss. It should be the easiest shot on the field yet I've lost many a straight there. But then there isn't a shot on the field I've not lost my share of straights on. Hey at least it's not as bad as missing shot #25 after smoking the first 24.

[Skunk]

Hey at least it's not as bad as missing shot #25 after smoking the first 24.

Ouch!! Now that would hurt.

[shotgunner]

I have missed a high 8, in the 4th round for a 99. The following year at the same shoot I hit that hight 8, tunred around and missed the first low 8 for a 99. I guess I have never missed the last one, but have seen it done. Shotgunner

[Graybeard]

I don't shoot enough anymore to run 100s or for that matter 99s anymore. I have done most of my shooting with the .410 the last few years and some with the 28. I try to stay in the low to mid 90s and with no more than I shoot I feel OK with that.

The old reflexes aren't what they were back when I shot competition and I sure don't shoot as much anymore either. My old flinch I developed from too many heavy loads keeps trying to rear its ugly head as well.

[shotgunner]

I had a flinch for a while, and beat it, but lost a lot of shoots for a season. Recoil is bad for everyone. I find that I don't shoot much 20 ga any more. 410s and 28s in the tube set and 1oz loads in the auto. Shot got so expensive the light loads were popular, and a lot of people learned they did not need so much of it. I wish they would make it a 28 and 410 sport. I wonder if trap shooters would do as well with 20s. I did once watch one of the Cooley brothers miss the last shot, the 100th target with a 410, for a 99. Tough way to finish. Shotgunner