Author Topic: Hows Obama Connected? (Read 3008 times)

Elijah Gunn · « **on:** June 30, 2009, 02:26:36 PM »

I haven't seen anything much about which NWO organizations Obama is connected to. You don't become president without help from "the powers that be". So , which ones? CFR, TC, Bilderburgers?

ironglow · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2009, 01:05:38 PM »

Obama is a Fabian Socialist as is his puppet master, George Soros. Fabian Socialists want the same thing Marxists/Communists do for us.
They just do it in hopefully a bit less violent way. They are "revolutionaries" in the same spirit as Lenin and Mao..but just sneakier.
Do yourself a favor and Google > Fabian Socialists < or > George Soros, Fabian Socialist < or any of a number of personalities.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/03/obama-fabian-socialist-oped-cx_jb_1103bowyer.html

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:49:12 PM »

Thanks TM7, and IG

Lokie · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2009, 05:00:58 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on July 03, 2009, 01:05:38 PM

Obama is a Fabian Socialist as is his puppet master, George Soros. Fabian Socialists want the same thing Marxists/Communists do for us.
They just do it in hopefully a bit less violent way. They are "revolutionaries" in the same spirit as Lenin and Mao..but just sneakier.
Do yourself a favor and Google > Fabian Socialists < or > George Soros, Fabian Socialist < or any of a number of personalities.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/03/obama-fabian-socialist-oped-cx_jb_1103bowyer.html

What's his connection with BildaBirger

ironglow · « **Reply #4 on:** July 06, 2009, 02:00:57 PM »

I realize TM will disagree, but I tend to think of these organizations as more or less peripheral, althoughj there is a probably a great deal of "cross-membership"..people belonging to both. One that may be a bit more closely aligned to the FB is the New World Order, but I am not convinced that everybody the uses the term New World Order..is on the same page. There are many , unfamiliar with the real NWO who use the term NWO...just because they think it is a "trendy" thing to say. I still believe that the FS are the major culprits..(IMO)

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2009, 04:54:33 PM »

Never heard of Pikes letter so I just googled it. You didn't give me a first name but I'm sure it has to be Albert Pike you are referring to. I'm kind of new to all this tin foil hat stuff so I'll check this out more. Thanks again for the info.

ironglow · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2009, 04:05:38 AM »

Elijah;
Don't get me wrong..and I am not condemning anybody else. I just don't accept these occult "prophets" etc. I really think that the only ones God gave a clear vision to and also commanded to write about it..can be found in the Bible.

http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/date/2007/08/

I know others will disagree, but what I posted about the Fabian Socialists doesn't come from esoteric sources or any "visions" by a seer.
The history of Fabian Socialists is there to be found by regular research.
The FS has the very same goals as the Marxists/Communists and one could even include the Nazis, and that is world domination. The major difference between the FS and the other kin of their plan was to take a longer time to do it, because rather than to gain power by force as the Marxists & Nazis did, they operate by stealth. ...But rest assured, once they do gain power, they will be just as ruthless as the Communists or Nazis ever were.
For the last century and a quarter they have quietly taken over the media, educational fields, Hollywood, politicians and even some "Christian" denominations in our country.
Need proof? Do those those aforementioned follow the Socialist line or do they affirm individual freedom? Answer that for yourself.
While the other organizations for the most part do exist, I think they are only involved in the sense that some are members of the CFR, Club of Rome, Bilderburgers or others also are FS participants, which is where the action is really being pursued. (IMO)

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2009, 04:03:35 PM »

IG Thanks for your concern. I agree that the biblical prophesies are the standard. I am curious about what other people have to say tho. It seems like the NWO is getting more brazen, and they don't even care how openly they reveal their plans of global governance.

ironglow · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2009, 01:02:12 AM »

Yes, I think some who truly adopt the NWO philosophy are involved in the FS and committed to it's aims. With the obvious intended takeover of every facet of our lives by the obamafia, it bis difficult to deny that a widespread plan was hatched out decades ago. There were too many pieces already conveniently in place for his dictatorial plans.
Here is an interesting story; an article by a man named Celente. Celente is a "futurist", one who predicts future events by historical & current trends and attitudes. A mix of demographics, awareness of the poplace plus many other factors. No kind of mysticism, rolling dice or such..just a scientific way of forecasting events. He has a good past performance record..if he's right on this one, practice survival skills and "keep your powder dry"..

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obamageddon-gerald-celente-trends-research-institute-predicts

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2009, 02:47:42 AM »

Have you ever heard about the "web bot project" over at a site called, "Half Past Human" ? On the site is a basic explanation of how they are using the internet to predict future events. It's a subscription site, but you can get some of their predictions free from a site called www.urbansurvival.com. The guy at urban survival refers to it as "the rickety time machine". It's not the bible, but it is interesting.
I watched a little of the Michael Jackson funeral. This is now a post christian nation. People are so ignorant of the bible that satan can be much more open about advancing his NWO. The strong delusion is here. 2nd Thessalonians 2:11

Another site I check out regularly is www.survivalblog.com

Oh ya, I know about Mr. Celente. I see his name at different sites I go to. I'm sure I've read articles by him. With the huge glut of info we have on the internet it's hard for me to remember who wrote what, and where I read it on the net.LOL

ironglow · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2009, 03:38:48 PM »

Elijah;
Speaking of Biblical prophesy, we of course can't put a time line to it, but it appears clues are popping up everywhere.
A couple musts for the end times..
1) A worldwide religion set up, ready for the anti-Christ (you and I both can see the "handwriting on the wall)

2) The US will not be a major power or player in end times events. In just 6 months, our nation has taken a terrible nosedive and our "leaders" seem determined to break our economy, making us a second-rate nation.

I could go on, but why ?.

Lokie · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2009, 05:55:03 AM »

It's good to see that there are many out there like me, my famley and my few neighbors who live off the grid, it's coming, it's scary and all we can do is hold on as this unmerry go round gets faster and faster.
Survival blog .com is a good info media, the book Patriots is a good tec read with a interesting story line.

bearmgc · « **Reply #12 on:** December 10, 2009, 08:42:33 PM »

If indeed we are nearing end times, then by the very definition of "End Times" much won't help anyone but following Christ. Living off the grid would only afford temporary respite, as prophesy unfolds.

goodshot · « **Reply #13 on:** December 12, 2009, 02:06:21 AM »

is there any more info on Pike's letter?
Not trying to Hijack but it was alluded to without anyone objecting
Best wishes,:)

bearmgc · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2010, 05:07:17 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on July 08, 2009, 04:05:38 AM

Elijah;
  Don't get me wrong..and I am not condemning anybody else. I just don't accept these occult "prophets" etc. I really think that the only ones God gave a clear vision to and also commanded to write about it..can be found in the Bible.

   http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/date/2007/08/

  I know others will disagree, but what I posted about the Fabian Socialists doesn't come from esoteric sources or any "visions" by a seer.
The history of Fabian Socialists is there to be found by regular research.
  The FS has the very same goals as the Marxists/Communists and one could even include the Nazis, and that is world domination. The major difference between the FS and the other kin of their plan was to take a longer time to do it, because rather than to gain power by force as the Marxists & Nazis did, they operate by stealth. ...But rest assured, once they do gain power, they will be just as ruthless as the Communists or Nazis ever were.
  For the last century and a quarter they have quietly taken over the media, educational fields, Hollywood, politicians and even some "Christian" denominations in our country.
   Need proof? Do those those aforementioned follow the Socialist line or do they affirm individual freedom? Answer that for yourself.
  While the other organizations for the most part do exist, I think they are only involved in the sense that some are members of the CFR, Club of Rome, Bilderburgers or others also are FS participants, which is where the action is really being pursued. (IMO)

If you read up on the origins of the Fabian Socialists of the late 19th Century, an amalgom of occultists, psychics, wealthy financeers and elite intellectuals, the names of whom would be shocking to you, you will find how extensive their influence has become in today's Western culture. They even went so far as to attempt to rewrite certain portions of the bible to reflect their beliefs that man becomes God, through the intentional engineering of a society of "supermen." They also believed that the "Return to Eden" by way of controlling society and the world, should not be left up to "the riff raff", who have no notion of orchestrating society into "perfection," but to those of superior intellect and a mystical connection to the "netherworld." They did not believe in overt revolution to achieve their aims, but in a slow, covert, serpentine movement of particular strategies, "when the time was right." And yes, they are still here, doing what they planned to do. 2 of the most famous Universities in England were in fact founded by members of this society, and are still considered by all, to be extremely highly regarded universities. Many members of other secret socieites, already mentioned here by others, morphed, so to speak, into this society eventually, either by giving financial support, or actively recruiting other "superiorly intelligent" people of their time.

ironglow · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2010, 12:47:47 AM »

Bearmgc;
That is why I am extremely suspicious of the recent presidents the American people have chosen..all from "Ivy League" backgrounds. As I see it the Ivy Leaguers all seem to think they are superior human beings..destined to rule over "commoners".
I am convinced that such explains the appeal of a Sarah Palin, a down to earth person with honest, open intentions, No Ivy League pretentions.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:04:43 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on July 07, 2009, 01:55:06 AM

Fabians, etc. are part of the mix. But the conspiracy is ancient and goes back to pre-Christ. As Christ tried to explain there are basically two types of mentalities on the planet. ...TM7

What did Jesus say about this? And... what does this have to do with "Fabian socialists"?

Quote from: ironglow on January 14, 2010, 12:47:47 AM

As I see it the Ivy Leaguers all seem to think they are superior human beings..destined to rule over "commoners".
I am convinced that such explains the appeal of a Sarah Palin, a down to earth person with honest, open intentions, No Ivy League pretentions.

I like her.

bearmgc · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2010, 12:59:07 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on January 14, 2010, 12:47:47 AM

Bearmgc;
That is why I am extremely suspicious of the recent presidents the American people have chosen..all from "Ivy League" backgrounds. As I see it the Ivy Leaguers all seem to think they are superior human beings..destined to rule over "commoners".
I am convinced that such explains the appeal of a Sarah Palin, a down to earth person with honest, open intentions, No Ivy League pretentions.

Ironglow, oh yes, I agree. It is wise to be suspicious. An attitude of entitlement has always gone part and parcel with the Fabian socialists. And the inclusion of the occult has also figured into their strategies of promoting man over God, man "becoming" God. What other entity wanted to become greater than God?

teamnelson · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:13:40 PM »

This is a great thread; it forced me to reread some stuff in the same context, which I'd not done together.

My thoughts on the "illuminati" and occultic prophesy ... it does not matter if it is legitimately from God, as long as those who follow it believe it is. So it is less about prophecy - predicting the future - and more about casting a vision of what could be to inspire your followers to make it happen. Mohammed did that, as have others. The efforts of the FS, CFR, etc ad nausea are simply attempts to achieve a vision. I would argue that the vision they are following is not fixed as fact.

Some would say Jesus merely cast a vision of how things could be, the obvious difference being that all those who have sought to work to bring the prophecy into fruition - create a Kingdom of Heaven on earth - have failed, often miserably, mostly violently. In that case it appears that God's will be done on earth despite man's efforts, no matter how altruistic.

I concur in theory with TM7 that there are only two sides involved, no matter how complex the institutions and organizations may appear. However scripture tells us that both sides, the chessboard and the rules of the game are all still subject to only one entity ... and He wins.

For the side comment about "end times" and the Christian, Jesus was preparing us for it, told us to be prepared for it, and the Pauline epistles are mostly encouragement to the persecuted church in the 1st century, many of whom thought they were in the end times. I do not think its unwise to simplify and prepare for that which you know is coming, as these times too may in fact simply be one more season that we will cycle through before the end. Certainly the first 3 centuries of Christendom, the persecution under the reformation, the church in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, and countless churches in our present time, all testify to the reality that just because its bad doesn't mean the end is coming soon.

bearmgc · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:21:09 PM »

TM7, yes, I'm sure their connection is who they pay homage to. its more tangible for many people to see the late 19th century workings of the Fabian Socialists because its closer to present time, and enough documented history permits us to connect the dots. As to Sarah Palin being different than the rest, I would bet everything that she is. First evidence is she elected to give birth to a special needs baby. In todays world, that would be against everything the Fabian Socialists are trying to achieve. They have orchestrated much in the direction of eugenics, not just social engineering, but also human engineering. Hitler was a Social Democrat, heavy into the occult, and eugenics, 2 aspects of the Fabian Socialist philosophy.

teamnelson · « **Reply #20 on:** January 15, 2010, 10:54:06 AM »

TM7, yep. The plot has always been to convince men that they could become like God (Genesis 3:5, "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”) So the whispering voice behind all of the factions is that they can cause that to happen through their own action.

I believe Islam is like an independent party in the same election; while perhaps not directly connected to the grander scheme (or perhaps so) they have a similar objective and are easily manipulated by others. Sufis, some Sunni, believe in the ultimate union of the soul of man with God, through the practice of religion. Islam in the main is not much different than some of things I've been reading by Fabians where your value as a person is correlated to your participation in the system. So I'd say that if Islam is not a direct arm of the OWO movement, they are a willing and unwitting accomplice to that aim. The inherent weakness of the OWO is that the participating factions all believe that THEY will be at the top when the dust settles ... that's good for the rest of us in the short run.

ironglow · « **Reply #21 on:** January 15, 2010, 12:41:50 PM »

I also agree that as TM7 and TeamNelson said, there are only two major forces in all creation..that of God and that of Satan..
If something is not of God, obviously then we know where it's roots and heart are at. Some few though may be harder to categorize, being as they pretend to be from God but are Satan's agents. We have been warned about these "wolves in sheep's clothing"..and warned on how to spot them..

bearmgc · « **Reply #22 on:** January 15, 2010, 03:05:03 PM »

Ironglow, funny you should mention that. Did you know that the Fabian Socialists have a Coat of arms? It is an image of a wolf in sheep's clothing........the truth, not kidding.

Elijah Gunn · « **Reply #23 on:** January 16, 2010, 08:48:06 AM »

Quote from: bearmgc on January 15, 2010, 03:05:03 PM

Ironglow, funny you should mention that. Did you know that the Fabian Socialists have a Coat of arms? It is an image of a wolf in sheep's clothing........the truth, not kidding.

Isn't there a large stainglass window of it somewhere in England?

bearmgc · « **Reply #24 on:** January 16, 2010, 08:56:03 AM »

Yeah, thinking I saw it somewhere, you're probably right. The agenda, hiding in plain sight....

teamnelson · « **Reply #25 on:** January 16, 2010, 07:37:02 PM »

Here ...

http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/FabianWindow-1.jpg

teamnelson · « **Reply #26 on:** January 16, 2010, 09:37:01 PM »

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13999

for the stained glass window in their official hq in London. Gotta love the world on an anvil with the hammers descending.

dbuz · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2010, 01:41:30 PM »

I don't know if you remember a few weeks before Hilary dropped out of the election, something very important happened. They both put a halt on the campaign trail and went to a certain event that was held on Jeckyl Island. A couple of weeks later, Hillary dropped out of the race. You can call them CFR, Bilderbergers, Illuminati, NWO, but they are all of the same organization trying to make a one world government. The same can be said of Romney dropping out and letting the doomed progressive "Republican" McCain have the Republican nomination.

bearmgc · « **Reply #28 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:20:12 AM »

Yes, evidence suggesting that is most likely what happened.

BoomLover · « **Reply #29 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:30:22 PM »

This is truly interesting! I have had an interest in the underlying context of Obama, feeling that there is so much that is sinister in his background! And that he is only a puppet to the NWO folks, most visible being George Soros. I have a book "Morals and Dogma", by Albert Pike, want to take a closer look at that one!