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muzzle loader lube recipes
« on: February 01, 2010, 10:15:46 AM »
Hi guys, I'm looking for a recipe. I used to make my own, but it's been a while and I forgot my recipe! I'm using TC Bore Butter and old Young Country 103. I shoot just about everything, PRB, conicals, revolvers, and a shotgun. I remember using Crisco, but I thickened it with something. I really need a grease that will stay put in hot weather on a revolver cylinder over the ball. I've tried searching but that's a wild goose chase. Thanks.

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 11:49:39 AM »
Go to the C&B Revolver forum and look at the stickys.  Plus I'm in the middle... well actually at the very beginning,  :-[ of a beeswax/crisco - beeswax/mutton tallow - beeswax/deer tallow 'speriment!   ;D
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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 01:05:56 PM »
50/50 bee's wax/crisco maybe 60/40 for warmer weather.  50/40/10 bee's wax/tallow/lanolin also works. go to www.castboolits.com/forums and you can find pages of this stuff and opinions/experiences on how well it works. hope this helps. good luck and good shootin' neighbor, bubba.
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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2010, 02:20:01 PM »
How about felt wads?

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 03:57:06 PM »
Thanks guys, I'll be shopping for some beeswax. I haven't tried felt wads in a long time. I use corn meal over the powder in my ROA. Just tried a 'spearmint myself, lubed my Lee 230 conicals with a mix of LLA/JPW/ mineral spirits, just like a tumble lube, which I shoot a lot of in my cast bullet loads. 35 gr. FFF/corn meal gave a stout load with no leading and ok accuracy, about 4" at 25 yds. I doubt I'll continue that tumble lubing for the Ruger, just use a soft lube hand applied. I might try pan lubing them after I get my mix worked out.

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 04:09:44 PM »
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/203261/

I've used Stumpy's Moose Snot for the past few years, works well...The good thing about making your own is you can tailor it to the weather...

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 03:55:28 PM »
Thanks guys, I'll be shopping for some beeswax.
Home Depot or Lowes or Ace Hardware.  Those wax rings for seating toilets.

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2010, 07:03:35 PM »
Reprint from my flintlock forum
Cleaner & lube

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Stumpy's Moose Juice

A general purpose blackpowder solvent and liquid patch lube. Shake well before using


Castor Oil 3 oz.
Murphy's Oil Soap 1 oz.
Witch Hazel 4 oz.
Isopropyl Alcohol (91%) 8 oz.
Water (non-chlorinated) 16 oz.


I dip my patching in this twice and let it dry laid flat on wax paper in between. Makes a semi-dry patch material that's easy to carry & use. If you don't mind carrying a little bottle it's a GREAT liquid lube as is.





Stumpy's Moose Snot


A premium multi-shot between wiping (10+) patch lube stable over a wide temperature range.


SPECIFICALLY designed for use of patched round balls in a loading block


Beeswax 2 oz.
Castor Oil 8 oz.
Murphy's Oil Soap 1 oz.


Heat beeswax in a soup can set a pot of water. ( A double-boiler. I keep my beeswax in a one pound coffee can and measure out what I need by melting it and pouring it into measuring cups). Add just enough water so the inner can does not begin to float (should be just short of the lube level in the can). Heat the water to a low boil. In a separate can, add the castor oil and Murphy's oil soap (cold). Once the beeswax is melted, swap the castor oil can in the pot of water for the beeswax. Add the beeswax to the oils. It will clump up. Stir with an ice tea spoon as the mixture heats up. When it fully melts there will be a scum that floats to the top and just won't mix in. Be patient. DO NOT COOK THE MIXTURE. Once the solids are dissolved there is no need to heat further. Skim the scum off. Remove the mix from the heat and wipe the water off the outside (so it won't drip into the container when you pour it out). FINAL TOP SECRET STEP: Add a teaspoon of Murphy's Oil Soap and stir vigorously. This last step makes the lube frothy and smooth - really adds to the appearance; though it doesn't seem to matter to the function of the lube. Clamp the can in the jaws of a vice-grip pliers and pour into the waiting tins. Allow to cool a half hour.


Note: it if is a hinged tin - line the edge that has the hinges with a strip of aluminum foil so it doesn't ooze out before it cools.




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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2010, 08:18:05 PM »
I found bw at a beekeeper supply store in Sacramento, also a. lanolin. I'll pick up some Murphy's Oil Soap too, try the Moose Snot. I was under the impression the toilet bowl wax rings are no longer made with bw? If they are bw then it's a good price to get it. Maybe I could get the RotoRooter guy to save me the old ones he takes off, probably contain some natural oils and such! Thanks for all the help guys.

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2010, 11:36:00 PM »
Here’s a recipe I got from a gent in Hawaii about 7-8 years ago (David F.).


Bore Butter, Hawaiian Style

Ingredients for about 5 pounds of Mixture
1 Lb. Natural Bee's Wax
Olive Oil - about 2 to 4 pounds  (1 lb = 2 cups of oil)
1 oz.  Cinnamon Oil (oil of cassia) food grade
10 each pound containers

Procedure for Bore Butter, Hawaiian Style

1. Melt the 1 lb. of natural bee's wax in a thick pot Slowly with about 2 lbs. of oil. If the wax is dirty add 1 quart of water to allow bee body parts, pollen and other stuff to accumulate in the water.

2. Remove from heat and let it get solid. Then wash and scrape the bottom of the material to clean it up. Re heat and pour the clean mixture into a large microwave able container.

3. Test poke with your finger. If your finger hurts, add oil.

4. Nuke (microwave) until liquid or about two or three minutes, and stir.  Let it get solid again. If your finger hurts go to #3 else continue to # 5.

5.  Let it cool and pour into small 1/2 lb. containers. Makes about 4-5 Lbs. depending on how loose you want your Bore Butter. Remember, the more oil the softer the mixture will be. The softer the mixture, the lower the melting point.

6. Continue to reheat - cook about 8 to 10 times total. The mixture will change consistency and smooth out. At the end of the last heating add 1 teaspoon of Cinnamon Oil per pound of mixture.

7. Attach a fancy label, which will impress your friends.


Notes: I have used Oil of Orange, Oil of Lemon, Oil of Spearmint and Maple flavor.  I have also used Red candle color for revolver lube. I like it best when it is the natural Bee's Wax yellow and smells like Bee's Wax and Cinnamon. That's the real Hawaiian Bore Butter.

Maple flavor doesn't work because it is water based. The additives must be oil based, both color and flavor, to work well. Oil-based colors and scents can be found in a candle supply or craft shop that has candle-making supplies. The best place to get oil-based flavors is in a drug store or a supermarket depending on which kind of oil is required. Bee's wax can be found on e-bay or look in your local phone book.

Uses: patch lube, cushion wad lube, general purpose lube, bore preservative, vehicle for rottenstone for rubbing powder horns so smooth, water proofs leather, protects leather from the elements (i.e. my Harley Saddle bags), revolver over the ball grease, grease for revolver cylinder pin, lube for various body parts (I was thinking about FEET), great wax for sealing end cuts of green lumber (may work as tree seal as well), burn salve, great for chapped hands and lips, on cast balls to preserve them from oxidizing, in groves of cast maxies, emergency candle fuel as well as a poor fire starter, wax resist for glazing pottery, flux for casting balls, grease to stop the barrel browning process, mustache, hair and dread-lock wax (for real!) and gifts to my shooting friends.

To prepare precut prelubed patches, insert 100 patches and about one tablespoon of bore butter into a baggie. Nuke for 30 seconds or until melted then let the patches cool off and absorb the bore butter. You will find that by varying the amount of measured bore butter per 100 patches you can find what your gun likes to shoot and it will be consistent. Also put 25 cushion wads with 1 tablespoon of bore butter into a baggie. Nuke for 30 seconds or until melted. For long range wax cookies, use plenty of 2:1 ratio WBB and place felt wads in a baggie and nuke. The wads must be separated when cool and placed in a proper storage can - I use a musket cap can.  Redhand via Ladobe.

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 08:45:38 AM »
Keep it simple.  I've tried an awful lot of patch lubes and some of them were pretty weird concoctions. I've yet to find anything better than straight olive oil. That's all I use now.

For conicals, I use a mixture of 1/4 bees wax, 1/4 Crisco and 1/2 olive oil.  Put all the ingredients in a glass container in the microwave oven until everything melts.  Stir it a little and pour into a container of your choice to cool and solidify.  I use old bullet boxes for the range and old musket cap tins for walking around.  You can vary the amount of olive oil for a harder or softer lube.

(By the way, toilet "wax rings" are no longer made with bees wax.  They have a petroleum base.)

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Re: muzzle loader lube recipes
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 12:59:05 PM »
Be advised, when you are looking for bee's wax.
Dont go to name brand stores like Walmart of Wallgreens, or Riteaid.
What they sell as bee's wax, is imported from asia, and has NO bee's wax in it.

Go join Cool Boolits .com and buy from Randy. Dirt cheap and very good quality

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=59975