Strange Twist to recent AL shooting

[TM7]

 6 shot and 3 dead at U of Al. I'm sure we are all tired of hearing about this stuff. But this time there is a very strange twist....fyi....

http://www.necn.com/02/13/10/Contradictory-tales-of-1986-Bishop-shoot/landing.html?blockID=180170&feedID=4215

..TM7

[jhm]

     Yes thats ALMOST as BAD as someone being a CLOSET LIBERAL posting on a gun loving CONSERVATIVE web site, if YOU know what I mean.   Jim

[blind ear]

"Accidentially" shot and killed her brother in 1986. "If it acts like a duck"

[williamlayton]

TM
This is the first report I have heard about three disharges. Where does that info come from?
What folks do after an accident often do not make rational sense--well, because they are not rational.
It does not often take much investigation to come to a correct conclusion of Accidental.
I am thinking that too much is being read into this accident 26 years ago, by folks that want it too have meaning in the act of this day.
Let justice do its work and let's move on.
Could it have been a pre-emptor to her actions today ? Who knows, but, probably not.
Blessings

[alsaqr]

I am thinking that too much is being read into this accident 26 years ago, by folks that want it too have meaning in the act of this day.

Accident

 Not according to the present police chief.  


Yep, this one reaches all the way to the US  congress.  Delahunt, the guy who was prosecutor at the time  is now sitting on his butt in DC as a US congress criminal.  Why am I not surprised that a murderer was given a pass in PRMA?  

NECN: Josh Brogadir, Braintree, Mass.) - New information emerged Saturday night from a State Police investigative report in conjunction with then-Norfolk District Attorney Bill Delahunt's Office in 1986, which sheds some light as to why Amy Bishop was never charged in the death of her younger brother 24 years ago.

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"(She) had a fight with her brother, she shot her brother in the chest, fled the home, she fled down the street, pointed the weapon at a vehicle -- tried to get that person to stop," Chief Frazier said.  "Subsequently, our officers found her and arrested her at that time by gunpoint."

Chief Frazier says Bishop was never booked and never charged.

The police report from 1986 is missing.

"During the booking process she was released by orders of the former police chief," Chief Frazier said.
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Chief Frazier says Amy Bishop's mother Judy was on the town personnel board at the time, and that back on December 6, 1986, the day of the shooting, "Amy was turned over to her mother and they left the building via a rear exit."

[jhm]

     Any evidence that is out there today, was out there then, If it was ruled a ACCIDENT then so be it, HOWEVER there is always someone who likes to turn things around to fit their agenda and try to make someone look bad. The RETIRED police chief today said the ruling was made based on what happened then and no one came forward with anything new then.   Jim

[SHOOTALL]

Guess up there 3 shots is an accident . What is murder ? ya got to field dress um ?

[alsaqr]

She was just feeling rejected when she excercised her civil right to kill those who denied her tenure.  That poor unfortunate sweetie pie is also a suspect in a Harvard bomb plot.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35397792/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Bomb sent to doctor
In the Harvard plot, a police official told the Globe that Bishop's name surfaced as a suspect because she was allegedly concerned about getting a negative evaluation on her doctorate work from Dr. Paul Rosenberg.

During the initial investigation, Rosenberg told police that he had received a thin, long package addressed to him and soon discovered that was filled with wires and a cylinder, according to the Globe.

The package had contained two pipe bombs, which were hooked up two nine-volt batteries, the Globe reported.

During a search of Bishop's computer, investigators discovered a draft of a story that Bishop had written about a female scientist who had killed her brother and was hoping to find redemption in life my becoming a great scientist, the Globe reported.

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[SHOOTALL]

They have a shot that will help her !

[williamlayton]

TM indicated that she shot her brother three times---information that seems to disagree with all that I read.
You are correct about the shot that will finish this whole mess---but---what doe it have to do with an accidental shooting--and--that is what it is until itis reopened--then--what bearing does it have on this case and how will it prevent this case from happening?
The old cop is way past lying about this old case---he and the DA made a decision it was accidental. Could they have be incorrrect? Yes! I don't think in the direction of a cover-up though.
Blessings

[SHOOTALL]

Well if they adminster the end all shot past murders will be moot really .

[alsaqr]

The old cop is way past lying about this old case---

You sound very sure of that.  Having lived in worked in PRMA:  I'm convinced that they will lie until they die.  Just look at the case of Teddy Baby Kennedy.  The police report on the Mary Joe drowning case disappeared soon after no action was taken.  Teddy Baby got a pass and they are still lying about that one.   

[SHOOTALL]

Seems teddy boy's case got bumped up to a higher court !

[williamlayton]

TM
You and I finally agree. I also find it easy to come to judgement--jut the opposite of you.
I see no evidence, that I can find, that she shot her brother three times and no evidence that the now sheriff has any evidence that there is a cover-up or a reason to believe it was other than an accident.
The bomb thing is the craziest part of your "evidence." If there were reasons to arrest her or her husband they would have done so.
Nutty---yes, but to link her to these other things just doesn't hold any water at this time.
Again I ask,,,What is the point of it anyway.
Are you proposing that she could have somehow been stopped--without any evidence ?

It is also fair to bring up that such decisions made based on suspicions is the reason many get put on watch list and are denined certain privileges granted under the Constitution.
Blessings

[gypsyman]

I read that she had been in an arguement with her brother. There was 3 shots. One in the wall,one in the ceiling, and one in her brother. Sounds like to me, 2 people wrestling over a gun. AD my butt. Coverup. And a bomb suposibley being associated with her. One incident,MAAYYBEE, 3, Not hardly. Sounds a spoiled rich kid that finally got caught with her hand in the cookie jar. gypsyman

[williamlayton]

"It is also fair to bring up that such decisions made based on suspicions is the reason many get put on watch list and are denined certain privileges granted under the Constitution."
Blessings

Seems you folks conveniently ignor the last paragraph.

Again---what are you saying in bring these things up---what is the arguement for?
Blessings

[jhm]

     Again some seem to look for a conspericy behind every tree, just to fill their OWN agenda, it has been going on for a couple years here.   Jim

[bearmgc]

At the time she shot her brother, her mother happened to be on the Police Board...

[williamlayton]

So what.
The former sheriff said she wasn't.
If they convict her of every charge you folks want, including the murder in Huntsville, how dead can you make her or how long can you put her in prison?
You can't force her too live 300 years in order to get revenge.
Revenge would be a good subject too discuss.
It has happened and what happens from now is all that matters.
Move on.
Blessings

[Brett]

So what.
The former sheriff said she wasn't.
If they convict her of every charge you folks want, including the murder in Huntsville, how dead can you make her or how long can you put her in prison?
You can't force her too live 300 years in order to get revenge.
Revenge would be a good subject too discuss.
It has happened and what happens from now is all that matters.
Move on.
Blessings

I think the point her is if she were locked up for the murder of her brother like she probably should have been she would not have been in the position to shoot six innocent people at the U of AL last week.    Once again the legal system seems to have dropped the ball.  That's "so what".

[Questor]

It will be very interesting to learn how that 1980 killing was dimissed as accidental. There's a real story there and I hope that some good investigative reporter is working on it.

[williamlayton]

Brett
If and but's--you know.
It didn't and she wasn't.
Do what needs to be done now.
"what if" is kicking a dead horse.
Blessings

[Dee]

So what.
The former sheriff said she wasn't.
If they convict her of every charge you folks want, including the murder in Huntsville, how dead can you make her or how long can you put her in prison?
You can't force her too live 300 years in order to get revenge.
Revenge would be a good subject too discuss.
It has happened and what happens from now is all that matters.
Move on.
Blessings

I think the point her is if she were locked up for the murder of her brother like she probably should have been she would not have been in the position to shoot six innocent people at the U of AL last week.    Once again the legal system seems to have dropped the ball.  That's "so what".

Brett is this not the same point I brought up involving Huckabee commuting a sentence in Arkansas, which resulted eventually in the deaths of officers in Washington or Oregon state? Were you in that discussion, but on the other side?

[myronman3]

maybe your points were dead on and your arguement was so brilliant you won him over.   

[Dee]

Brett ain't bashful or easily led. He knows what he thinks. Sometimes we all look at the same thing and see it differently, but change the names, on a simular issue, and sides sometimes change. Besides, I'm going from memory, and it could have been someone else.
My wife says I've made two mistakes in my life that she knows for sure about. Both live in another town.

[LaOtto222]

This reminds me of a case here in NE Indiana from a while back. A mother and father were found dead, shot gunned. A son was suspected of the slaying, but he was found innocent at trial. The case went unsolved. Several years later, he was living with his bother and sister in a house in Fort Wayne. His sister went to the store to get some groceries.  His brother and three of his friends were talking about him in their living room. No one knows what they were saying. He went upstairs and grabbed an AR 15, came down stairs and shot all four of them to death, which included his brother. More than likely he would have shot his sister too, if she was there. He did not get away with this one. Six dead, three of them family members.

[Brett]

So what.
The former sheriff said she wasn't.
If they convict her of every charge you folks want, including the murder in Huntsville, how dead can you make her or how long can you put her in prison?
You can't force her too live 300 years in order to get revenge.
Revenge would be a good subject too discuss.
It has happened and what happens from now is all that matters.
Move on.
Blessings

I think the point her is if she were locked up for the murder of her brother like she probably should have been she would not have been in the position to shoot six innocent people at the U of AL last week.    Once again the legal system seems to have dropped the ball.  That's "so what".

Brett is this not the same point I brought up involving Huckabee commuting a sentence in Arkansas, which resulted eventually in the deaths of officers in Washington or Oregon state? Were you in that discussion, but on the other side?

Sorry I don't recall the conversation you are referring to.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen, I just don't remember it.   If you can find it in the old thread I would be glad to review it. 

p.s.: I thought I was wrong once... turns out I was mistaking.     

[gypsyman]

Lets see, just off the top of my head. Just read where the oldest inmate on death row, died at the age of 94. Seems his criminal record went back into the '30's. He was convicted of killing a police officer in '47, served 25 years, got out and killed another guy that had a coin shop, served 20 years, escaped, shot another person, and finally dies in prison. There was the guy that killed the 4 officers in Wash. There was a perp here in Toledo back in the '80's, raped and killed an 8 year girl, and stuck her in the floor boards of the house he was living in. When they did some digging, seems that his record dated back into the early '60's for child molestation,Texas,La., had him serve limited time, then cut him loose after just a couple years. How about the little girl in Florida last year, guy down the road, convicted sex offender, killed and raped her. Truth be known, if the judicial system had a batting average, they wouldn't have a high enough average to play single A ball in Pawtuckett,R.I. gypsyman