250 gr cast over 9.0 gr of Unique for 875 fps is my every day load. Very fun to shoot. As far as getting hot with them check out the Hodgdon website in the section for Rugers, TC's and Freedom Arms. There are some very hot loads for jacketed bullets over H110 and Lilgun. The ones I load over Lilgun aren't something I want to shoot a lot of in my 4 5/8 Blackhawk as they're just danged uncomfortable, but if I traveled in bear country I wouldn't hesitate to pack a cylinder full of them. Good luck on finding your load and good shooting.