Hello, I normally post in the reloading or T/C forums, but I also read the postings here. I wanted to share an observation I made the other day at the range about my optics. I have "always" used BSA and Bushnell Sportview Scopes in the past on all my rifles. I've never had a problem with them, lots of hunting and deer taken, etc. My friends abuse me because they all have Leupold Vari X III on their rifles. I look through them, but not a noticable difference to me short term basis. I bought a BSA spotting scope 20X for range usage. I got a great deal on a Leupold VX II 3x9x40 and decided to put it on my t/c encore. When sighting in, it it all became very clear, very quickly. At 9x with the Leupold, I could see holes in the target at 100 yards with my scope, crystal clear. Using the BSA spotting scope, I could see the target, no holes, and this is a 20x scope!!! What I learned for myself was that the Leupold 9x was clearer and more magnification than the 20x BSA. I was convinced once and for all that going "cheapy", I wasn't doing myself any favors. I have to buy another scope next year for my 7mm. I'll only buy quality optics from now on. Probably 4200 or Vari xIII. Pete