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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2010, 03:37:34 AM »
Nothing more scary than hunting on public land, when you see some nut walking his dog down a old cart road right past your stand wearing a brown coat.

I hunt deer on a public Wildlife Management Area frequented by "dog walkers."  It hasn't stopped me from getting my deer yet, and sometimes provides a bit of comic relief.  Take this past modern gun deer season, for example.  I'm sitting at my spot and this college-age fella and a couple of co-eds come by my spot.  The fella notices I've got a rifle. 

"Say, you aren't going to shoot me, or anything, are you?" He asked.

"Are you a deer?"

"Uh, no."

"Then you haven't got a thing in the world to worry about."

"Say, its probably kind of tough to see deer with us making so much noise, I bet."

"Nope.   At this time of the day, the more noise you make, the better, as far as I am concerned.  Go ahead and make all the racket you want."

Curiously, the fella and is female companions were church mouse quiet from that point on........

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2010, 03:49:39 AM »
Look at the price of firearms, the manufactures are practically pricing themselves out of business.

In 1979, my dad paid 139.99 for the New Haven 20 gauge pump shotgun (essentially the same thing as a Mossberg 500) that I still shoot today.  Corrected for inflation, that was the equal of about $425.00 2010 dollars. You can buy a new M-500 20 gauge today at our local Walmart for $225.00.  A few years later, he paid around $175.00 for my Ruger 10/22 Deluxe Sporter that I still shoot today.  I think that would also equal close to $400.00 in today's 2010 dollars.

Hey, I can remember when a Jeep Wranger could be had for $8,995.00, brand spankin' new off the dealer's lot back in 1987.  They cost a wee bit more now than they did "back in the day."  So does just about everything else.  Including employees.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2010, 05:27:54 AM »
Nothing more scary than hunting on public land, when you see some nut walking his dog down a old cart road right past your stand wearing a brown coat.

I hunt deer on a public Wildlife Management Area frequented by "dog walkers."  It hasn't stopped me from getting my deer yet, and sometimes provides a bit of comic relief.  Take this past modern gun deer season, for example.  I'm sitting at my spot and this college-age fella and a couple of co-eds come by my spot.  The fella notices I've got a rifle. 

"Say, you aren't going to shoot me, or anything, are you?" He asked.

"Are you a deer?"

"Uh, no."

"Then you haven't got a thing in the world to worry about."

"Say, its probably kind of tough to see deer with us making so much noise, I bet."

"Nope.   At this time of the day, the more noise you make, the better, as far as I am concerned.  Go ahead and make all the racket you want."

Curiously, the fella and is female companions were church mouse quiet from that point on........

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LOL! That's about the time you would like to see one, so you could shoot it in front of them, and offer them a leg of buck ;D. Now that would make a good, liberal, tofu eatin tree hugger barf up his trail snack.
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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2010, 06:03:24 AM »
Look at the price of firearms, the manufactures are practically pricing themselves out of business.

In 1979, my dad paid 139.99 for the New Haven 20 gauge pump shotgun (essentially the same thing as a Mossberg 500) that I still shoot today.  Corrected for inflation, that was the equal of about $425.00 2010 dollars. You can buy a new M-500 20 gauge today at our local Walmart for $225.00.  A few years later, he paid around $175.00 for my Ruger 10/22 Deluxe Sporter that I still shoot today.  I think that would also equal close to $400.00 in today's 2010 dollars.

Hey, I can remember when a Jeep Wranger could be had for $8,995.00, brand spankin' new off the dealer's lot back in 1987.  They cost a wee bit more now than they did "back in the day."  So does just about everything else.  Including employees.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2010, 07:11:15 AM »
It's a combination of factors guys.

In reality, hunting for food is not as efficient as raising livestock.  That means that subsistence hunting for a population as large as ours isn't particularly realistic.  If the whole of the population hit the woods hunting deer to put food on the table then we'd all be starving and the woods would be so crowded you couldn't fire a round without hitting someone.

As such, for the vast majority of people, it has become a hobby, not a way of life.  Due to development, the resources (namely land) needed for that hobby are diminishing.  When supply goes down cost goes up - that's the way of the world.  Combine the elimination of the NEED to hunt, with the increased cost of hunting, and it's no surprise that it's going down. 

I still hunt (on public lands - I can't monetarily justify joining a nice hunt club for $1000+), and I will continue to do so, but I don't expect the numbers to go up.  Heck even amongst gun enthusiasts when you go to the range now most people are shooting handguns and AR15's.  Nothing wrong with that at all (I shoot those too), but it's definitely not a hunting crowd.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2010, 10:14:28 AM »
hunting shows and the competitive atmosphere it creates are what is killing hunting.  add in there horrible mismanagement by the state government (i am not going to single out any one state-WISCONSIN! oops!) and there you go.   growing populations dont help either, when every tree has a hunter behind it and people are trespassing like it doesnt matter.   
 
   in less than ten years  time, i have watched hunting spiral right down the tubes and i sometimes doubt if i will even teach it to my kids.   it has become a rat race and a perversion of what it used to be. 

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2010, 11:02:19 AM »
I suspect the single biggest thing killing hunting is that we're a dying breed quite litterally. We're not bringing new hunters in at the rate we older ones are leaving. Only one of our three sons took to hunting and he does darn little of it any more claiming he has too little time tho he did more this past season than he has in years.

If you retire from hunting without having recruited at least one hunter into the fold to replace you then there is a net loss of hunters and that is exactly what's happening all over the country these days. All the rest is just excuses.


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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2010, 05:16:17 PM »
A lot of it is costs! I Remember Duck hunting as a kid with my Dad. Its cost prohibitive now. You have to have a lease these days, License, Stamps, a boat, shells, decoys a gun and for what to kill a couple of ducks. Most every one's discretionary funds(thats money we can blow) are limited these days, and are getting more limited as we speak.  Fishing is getting to be the same way, it will all be rich mens sports one day.

Not to mention Kids wont go outside, unless you threaten them. I just took a grandson hunting in west Texas, I'd say look out there at the Deer as we drove down the highway, He was playing an electric game, and didn't even look up. To keep peace I didn't throw it out the window!
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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2010, 06:47:53 PM »
It's a conspiracy...It is really...

Everybody and their relative knows damn well the Feds and State governments don't want us to hunt..Why..Cause they don't want us owning guns..and if they can get enough of us mad about them raising the prices on everything..giving away our hunting lands..making it so expensive in or out of state that the common hunter will quit or better yet go postal on folks..then they win in the end..Once they succeed in taking our guns legally like the Nazi's did in Germany before WWII ...then only their elite will be hunting for sport again..and all of us serfs will have to oblige them..God you just got to hand it to them for the major mind rape they have given the people over the years about this..The common man means squat to the progressive parties..we never have..we never will..FDR started it with his hand outs..and giving away Federal lands to the developers...now we are reaping what they sowed back then..

It's time for a 5 million hunter march to Washington...and let them hear how we all feel about it..

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2010, 05:42:51 AM »
A lot of it is costs! I Remember Duck hunting as a kid with my Dad. Its cost prohibitive now. You have to have a lease these days, License, Stamps, a boat, shells, decoys a gun and for what to kill a couple of ducks. Most every one's discretionary funds(thats money we can blow) are limited these days, and are getting more limited as we speak.  Fishing is getting to be the same way, it will all be rich mens sports one day.

True, I can't afford to buy into a lease to hunt private land.  I'm afraid of the yahoos that hunt on public land. Heck, we even have to buy a Salt Water fishing license now which really irks me.  I can reconcile myself with paying for a fresh water fishing license since some of the money goes to stocking fish, but what am I getting for my money when I buy a Salt water license?     

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2010, 06:06:40 AM »
I can buy a used 12 gauge single for $80 any time I want. That is roughly what breakfast and lunch (coffee, bagel, soda, sandwich,chips) cost me each week. 100 shells at WalMart are under $25. Deer loads are more but how many do you need? Guns are dirt cheap IMHO. Access is not. I will not hunt public land nor would I encourage anyone to. Rather not hunt. Have a lifetime license.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2010, 06:31:42 AM »
For several years i have only hunted in New Mexico have been able to draw
every time i tried $550. for lic. about another $300-$400 for food travel
and other crap. That is a lot less than Trying to hunt whitetails here in Texas
for a decent lease $2000. and that gives you the right to put up a feeder
a blind. then try to beat other folks not in your party to your feeder.
I just can not get ready to pay $3000-$5000. a year to hunt deer in
my home state and that is what it has come to.
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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2010, 06:53:19 AM »
In my state they raised license fees by about $15 and charged $10 to APPLY for 2 doe permits. That put such a crimp in license applications that almost everyone who did not "win" 2 doe permits, was waitlisted and got them anyway. Plus they still could not get rid of them and gave out an additional 2 in certain sections just for asking. So that was 5 deer under regular firearm season for about a $60 license and $10 doe permit. Only trick is driving an hour to the doe permit area. Could have gotten more deer permits for archery and muzzleloader. There is ample public land 20 minutes from the house. I hear the shots from my club.....lol My neighbors hunt my land, I can hunt theirs. Which would be about 300 acres. Bucks only, so I drive the hour to a friend's 200 acres.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2010, 01:23:29 PM »
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If you retire from hunting without having recruited at least one hunter into the fold to replace you then there is a net loss of hunters and that is exactly what's happening all over the country these days. All the rest is just excuses.

Graybeard hit the nail on the head. That sums it up. Unfortunately the world has become complicated and there is too much for kids today that out-competes spending time in the outdoors fishing or hunting. Sad, but true. Organized sports are great, but even that takes away time from hunting and fishing. There is very little "truly free" time. Less time outdoors with the kids due to the fact that they have always got a baseball game or basketball game or something. You feel guilty if they miss a game (don't want to let the team down), but sometimes I will let hunting trump the game or practice.

I am fortunate to have the opportunity to bring four youngsters into the sport - my two sons and two nephews that are interested. Maybe we need a program like big brothers, big sisters to provide mentoring opportunity for people that don't have kids interested in the outdoor sports.
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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2010, 02:39:04 PM »
We see hunting as a sport, but of course it encompasses much more than that. Hunting for food, developing self reliance in the outdoors, skill wth firearms shooting and maintainence, exercise, wildlife knowledge.  The government and socialist entities are trying to cull the shooting community away from the rest of society and label them as not normal. Being a gunowner means more independence and self reliance.  Limiting the land available for hunting and shooting decreases the opportunities to develope skills with guns. The land today has been taken away from kids for their adventures and their hunting. As children, my friends and I spent more time running the woods after school and weekends than anything else. Building tree houses, catching crawdads and using them for fishing, scouting the hillsides. Kids today spend way too much time indoors, developing an avoidance of all things not concrete and electronic.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2010, 09:19:56 PM »
I suspect the single biggest thing killing hunting is that we're a dying breed quite litterally. We're not bringing new hunters in at the rate we older ones are leaving.

I reckon we are indeed......

My family has a 20 acre hunting camp in California that borders a National Forest on two sides.  During the peak of activity in the late 70s and early 80s, that camp hosted up to 25 hunters during the deer and upland game bird seasons.  I was related in one way or another to half of those men.  We camped together there, but the hunting was done on hundreds of thousands of acres of the adjoining National Forest lands.

In my immediate family, my mother didn't object to my dad's hunting and fishing, but she did lay down the law on one issue.  He could go hunting or fishing whenever and wherever he wanted, BUT he had to take me with him.  As a kid, I didn't really have a choice in the matter.  Sometimes I didn't know I was going hunting or fishing until my dad woke me up at "O-Dark-Thirty" on a Saturday morning.

I'm sure that I was something of a "style cramper" as a five and six year old tag-along, but my dad never let on that such was the case.

My uncles didn't have the same kind of domestic arrangement, apparently.  Few of my cousins ever showed up at hunting camp.

Time marched on as time does, and one by one, the fellows I used to hunt and fish with became too old and infirm to go out anymore.  The last year that I resided in California, my wife, my kids, and I were the only members of the family left who still used our hunting camp, and it had been that way since about 2002.  We live in Oklahoma now, some 1550 miles away, but we still use it one week out of the year for the California quail season.

The fact that I "had" to go hunting and fishing with my dad certainly didn't guarantee that I'd continue those pursuits in adulthood.  But the converse, that being that my cousins DIDN'T have to go, pretty much guaranteed that they would hunt or fish in adulthood.

When I think about it, my passion for the traditional outdoors pursuits of hunting and fishing represent one of the greatest gifts my parents gave me.  I'm not sure that I'd have turned out any different than my cousins did if I hadn't have had so much exposure to hunting and fishing at a young age.  Those men I hunted with were all from rural Oklahoma, Kansas, and Arkansas originally, but had moved to metropolitan Southern California and raised their families in suburban L.A. and Orange counties.  I was a "city kid" just like my cousins.  For me, however, the city was just the place where I laid my head weeknights and went to school.

My "real home" was that little 20 acre patch of ground bordering the National Forest.  Still is.  Always will be.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2010, 10:19:21 PM »
hunting shows and the competitive atmosphere it creates are what is killing hunting.  add in there horrible mismanagement by the state government (i am not going to single out any one state-WISCONSIN! oops!) and there you go.   growing populations dont help either, when every tree has a hunter behind it and people are trespassing like it doesnt matter.   
 
   in less than ten years  time, i have watched hunting spiral right down the tubes and i sometimes doubt if i will even teach it to my kids.   it has become a rat race and a perversion of what it used to be. 

I don't own a television.  I haven't owned one since I got married eleven years ago.  This lack of television isn't part of some broad-reaching social agenda, though.  It started out that we were both too busy with other things -work, other hobbies and interests, and didn't have time for it.  I reckon we still don't.  We might buy one someday, but it hasn't been a high priority and probably won't be for the forseeable future.

My kids have got along just fine, so far, without having a television in the house.  One of the fringe benefits is that I don't have to undo any influence that could be done by what they might otherwise see on the tube.  I don't have to argue about why this program or that one isn't appropriate for kids to view, because there is nothing in the house to view it on.

My kids aren't constantly nagging me to buy a television, either.  By now, they've become used to not having one around.  They've become so used to it, in fact, that a few days ago, my daughter went off to a neighbor kid's house to play and was back home in less than 30 minutes, complaining that all her pal wanted to do was sit around and watch T.V. -an activity my 8 year old daughter described as "supremely boring."  My son is a little older, and understands that money spent on a cable bill is money that wouldn't be available to buy .22 LR ammo at $20.00 a brick.  And in spite of the fact that he's still shooting a single shot Cricket bolt action, he can go through four of them in an average month.  He'd rather shoot his .22 rifle than watch T.V. any day of the week.  (Actually, lately, he'd rather shoot MY 10/22 than watch T.V.....)

My wife and I are both avid quail hunters.  From the time that our youngest was old enough to walk with us, we've taken our kids in the field with us.  They know what the reality of fair chase hunting is like, because they've seen it plenty of times. 

The quail hunting that we did in California -and still do, though to a far lesser extent since we live so far away now- was never a "rat race" and still isn't.  Here in Oklahoma, when I take my kids for a walk in the woods with me on what is billed as a squirrel hunt, it isn't a "rat race," either, and we're walking public land woods in a state that doesn't have anywhere near the amount of public land acreage in terms of a percentage of land base that California does.  You'd think we'd see at least one other squirrel hunter in the woods, but we haven't yet in the two-plus years we've lived here.

Now, deer hunting on public land out here can be a zoo from what I've seen on some Wildlife Management Areas (WMAs).  That said, my son and I hunted a public WMA just ten minutes from home during the modern gun deer season and only saw one other hunter during the time we hunted it.  I hunted it every day during the modern gun season and had the place to myself, aside from a few college kids out for a stroll and a smattering of elderly dog-walkers.

So, my experience differs.  Hunting to me isn't a "perversion of what it used to be."  It is what it always has been.  An opportunity to commune with nature and share quality time with family and maybe -just maybe- an expereince that ultimately ends with some tasty delicacy on the dinner table.  That seems to be the way my kids view the thing, too, and they're 8 and 10 years of age, respectively.  We don't always come home with game every time we go out, but we always have a good time and see plenty of things that we wouldn't have seen if we'd have wasted the day indoors at home.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2010, 01:45:21 AM »
Here let me give you some reasons for the decline. Hunter going after hunter, and gun owner after gun owner.

How many times have you heard traditional hunters say they don't want crossbows in the woods. No smokeless muzzleloader's during muzzleloader season. The list goes on and on.

The older people are finding it harder to hunt and need help, but the younger hunters don't want to help them. We have a lot of young people that would like to hunt, but no one to take them.

Also the instant gratification the kids want these day is not what hunting is about. When a lot of us were growing up, hunting was a way of life. It is not like that any more. PETA and the anti-gun anti-hunting crowd has changed the face of hunters, and painted them as just killers.

There are so many reasons why the sport is not growing. Some times it is our own fault.
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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2010, 03:45:08 AM »
I used to have a sig line on my post that said "Want to have a good time? Take a kid plinking or hunting."
Maybe I need to add that back. Over the past 30 some years I've gone out of my way to introduce youngin' to the out of doors.
I've taught neighborhood kids to fish, hunt, and reload ammo. Found it very rewarding.
I've sponsored kids to boy scout camp and have bought ammo for the rifle and shotgun ranges for the boys.
Not once did it cause me any pain. We as a group of enthusiast should be willing to help the next generation of hunters get started.
I would encourage everyone to find a local youth group who participate in the shooting sports and sponsor this activity.
Scouts, 4H, and FFA all promote this so there's a few places to help out right there.
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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2010, 03:50:46 AM »
Was chatting with parents at a toddler bday party. Goal these days is to keeping kids engaged and enriched all of the time. Ideally in activities that get them to college. With some parental involvement. Hunting does not fit in. These parents included a Michigan deer hunter, now clothing designer. And a lawyer that still has a country house on 200 acres as her family/weekend home. Who fished/hunted as a kids and has no interest anymore. Life is different now. The stuff our parents did would get us reported to child services today.

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« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2010, 03:54:57 AM »
Through my club I help fund shooting and archery for kids. These days with all the negative attention on adult-child interactions, I have zero interest in spending time with kids that are not my own.

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« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2010, 04:26:18 AM »
Through my club I help fund shooting and archery for kids. These days with all the negative attention on adult-child interactions, I have zero interest in spending time with kids that are not my own.

Wreckhog makes a good point.  These days you have to be extremely careful when working with kids whether it be in organized sports, scouts, mentoring, etc.  These days if a coach gives a kid on his ball team a hug or a pat on the back after making a good play he/she might find themselves up on child molestation charges.   
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« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2010, 04:53:43 AM »
Not only is bringing up kids today getting more difficult, but the antis have put down all traditional family values that are fast disappearing. Case in point, we had a sportsman club in my state that sponsored a yearly machine gun shoot under" qualified supervision" supposedly. Well God forbid one 8 years old died after the Uzi he was firing caught a round to his head. This happened while his father and the range officer behind him saw it happen. Stupid move, yes. The point being that story was fuel for the anti gunners and hunting. >:(

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2010, 04:59:10 AM »
I grew up in a time when, after school you could take the shotgun off the pegs ,and drive a few blocks to the neighbors field and (with his permission) shot a few doves for the pot before supper. Same thing during Duck and Quail season. Deer season was the same also, just get permission and go to it , permission was never a problem and deer were plentyfull. Now it takes at least $2000 to get a basic lease, where you have to compete with the other 6 guys on that 150 acres for the few deer that are left. Hunting here in Texas (I am sorry to say) has become BIG INDUSTRY. The major unwanted pest in the state is the Feral Hog, tearing up hundreds of acres of land daily. Offer a rancher to come get rid of these pests and he will want you to pay a minimum of $100 a day to "help with his problem" The cattle ranches have become secondary to hunting leases. Million dollar facilities with gourmet chefs that cater to the "Hunters?" High fences, selective breeding, sales of breeding stock and regesterd semen abound. Hunting prices are based on the size of the trophy. In some places clients are given the choice of deer by selecting the one they want from a video, then after dicsussing prices taken by a "guide?"to that deers location, where the harvest is made and he is back at the lodge in time for his 6 course meal. It has become a sad state of affairs no wonder our youth are hunting less.
"No man who refuses to bear arms in defense of his nation can give a sound reason why he should be allowed to live in a free country."   T. Roosevelt

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2010, 12:59:48 PM »
Hunting began to die when it became a "sport". At least thats my take. Anymore its more and more about the biggest or the largest. Its not a competition

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2010, 01:54:51 PM »
Not only is bringing up kids today getting more difficult, but the antis have put down all traditional family values that are fast disappearing. Case in point, we had a sportsman club in my state that sponsored a yearly machine gun shoot under" qualified supervision" supposedly. Well God forbid one 8 years old died after the Uzi he was firing caught a round to his head. This happened while his father and the range officer behind him saw it happen. Stupid move, yes. The point being that story was fuel for the anti gunners and hunting. >:(
How is an 8 year old offing himself with a Class 3 not fodder for antis? Morons at the club should have thought that out before ever hosting the event.

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Re: The sport of hunting, is dying in America
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2010, 01:57:48 PM »
Hunting began to die when it became a "sport". At least thats my take. Anymore its more and more about the biggest or the largest. Its not a competition
Trophy hunting has always existed. TR did not go to the dark continent for dinner.

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(Ugandan)
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