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Schoharie, NY cannons
« on: March 06, 2010, 10:37:55 AM »
O.K.. Here are some images I took from the internet. I've seen these beasts years ago but I question the "Old Iron Sides" claim. :-\

So here's the real deal.......If anyone is interested in details, I'll make the 2 hour drive tomorrow with my camera. I figure Mike & Tracy and John cannonmn might be interested.

There is a fantastic family operated restaurant close to where these should be. It's a Tory tavern and a step into the past.  We haven't been there for a while and I offered my wife a deal. If she digs out my shop, I'll take her to dinner.  ::)

I'll have to shlep through the snow for the images but what's a friend for?

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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 11:14:42 AM »
     'Richard the Traveler',   We sure are interested!  The Old Stone Fort was on my Third Grade Teacher's list of field trips back when I lived in Cobleskill, NY and attended the Lark St. Elementary school.  Over the years I retained the general shape of those two guns, but I thought they were 9" Dahlgrens.  When Mike and I visited the Old Stone Fort in 2003, my second visit in fifty years, and we found they were actually 32 Pdr. Bureau of Ordnance Guns.  Very similar shape, but no cigar!

     Don't forget to check out the cannonball hit on the fort's back wall, a remnant of a Tory and Indian raid in 1780.  They had a 3-pdr.  I hope this will be a fair and balanced visit, Richard.  Will you be visiting a Rebel gas station or drugstore, as well as the Tory tavern?

The 32 pdr. cascable and lock areas are very revealing,

Mike and Tracy
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I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 01:46:19 PM »
Mike & Tracy,
I'll see if I can get some images and specs tomorrow. I haven't been there for years. I seem to remember that there was a light cannon on a field carriage in the church/fort too.

I used to have a territory of 12 counties so I was like a spotted dog; I was seen everywhere.  I back-tracked a year or 2 ago to get images of cannons and mortars that I remembered from years ago.

GONE :'( 

I was told that the State armories scrapped them to down play war ???  Who knows!  This "politically correct" crappola, frosts my onions.

So we have reservations at the George Mann Tory Tavern tomorrow and my wife stopped shoveling the snow blocking my shop, long enough to tell me that the annual Schoharie antique show was tomorrow too. 

http://www.torytavern.com/index.php  Check the menu. Ain't no grits here hoss. :D

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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 04:18:05 AM »
I wish I could join and try that restaurant , sounds delishious
but I guess that I wouldnt like the bill as much as the food   ;D
Dan Pettersson
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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 11:36:57 AM »
Dinner was excellent....

Dan!  It's only money. 

I did the best I could with the images, considering I was dressed for dinner and the snow was in the way.

M&T: I copied the markings. Both tubes seemed to be identical.

Look up at the trim board and you can still see the cannon shot.

Rick: Do you think this is a cannon from the Constitution? It's not my field.
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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 11:40:22 AM »
Cannon shot split the trim board.
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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 11:44:01 AM »
Constitution cannon?????????
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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 11:45:01 AM »
Looks too modern for combat duty on the Constitution.  If 1865 is the date of that gun, I can't believe it was ever on her.

That second one looks like the ones shown on the Constitution CD-ROM although the truck seems a little squat compared to the one in the plans.  But the plans were made from the repros on board at the beginning of the 1920-1930's rehab, so who really knows.
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Re: Schoharie, NY cannons
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 11:55:48 AM »
GG, the first 2 pages are the Old Stone Fort's War of the Rebellion twins.  The last page is the "Constitution" piece on the lawn of the Schoharie Central School. The carriage could not possibly be original. It has been outside on the lawn for as long as I can remember and would have rotted away in 200 years. Maybe this was a shop project :-\
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